- From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 20:45:19 +0000
- To: SDW WG Public List <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
The minutes of today's meeting are at
http://www.w3.org/2015/02/11-sdw-minutes.html and are linked from the
wiki as you'd expect. A snapshot is provided below.
SDW WG Weekly
11 Feb 2015
[2]Agenda
[2] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150211
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2015/02/11-sdw-irc
Attendees
Present
eparsons, Frans, kerry, Clemens, +1.412.390.aaaa,
CoryHenson, Payam, DanhLePhuoc, MattPerry, ingo,
billroberts, +61.4.331.2.aabb, ahaller2, SimonCox,
ChrisLit, aharth, IanHolt, RaulGarciaCastro,
Alejandro_Llaves, Ioannis, Linda, Adila,
+34.65.631.aacc, OscarCorcho, AndreaPerego, AndreasHarth
Regrets
Rachel_Heaven, Krzysztof_Janowicz, Antoine_Zimmermann
Chair
Ed
Scribe
kerry
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Clarifying Use Cases Work
2. [6]editors for use case deliverable
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<phila> chair: Ed
<Clemens> I??P8 is me
<Frans> How can you tell wich P* is you?
<RaulGarciaCastro> Frans, Looking at the chat in the moment you
connect
<Frans> thanks Raul
`scribe: kerry
<scribe> scribe: kerry
<eparsons> Thanks Kerry !
<Ioannis> zakim ?? p25 is me
<SimonCox> zakim said +Simon when I think I connected, but my
IRC tag is SImonCox
meeting starts
<phila> PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes
[7]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/04-sdw-minutes.html
[7] http://www.w3.org/2015/02/04-sdw-minutes.html
<SimonCox> +1
<Frans> +1
<Clemens> +1
propose: approve previous minutes -- ed
<MattPerry> +1
+1
<phila> +1
<Alejandro_Llaves> +1
<DanhLePhuoc> +1
<ChrisLit> +1
<eparsons> [8]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
[8] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
RESOLVED:
<phila> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes
[9]http://www.w3.org/2015/02/04-sdw-minutes.html
[9] http://www.w3.org/2015/02/04-sdw-minutes.html
eparsons points out patent call
agenda item 1 new members?
billroberts introduction
<phila> present RaulGarciaCastro
swrl in uk, lod publishing with technology, help to do things
like other people , based in manchester
no more new attendees
<Ioannis> +Zakim, ??P25 is me
inext agenda item : adding items to agenda
please email to list by FRIDAy of previous week before meeting
<Adila> zakim who is on the phone?
all members can ask for items on agenda to be considered by the
chairs
<ChrisLit> +1
<billroberts> +1
<Frans> +!
<IanHolt> +1
<ingo> +1
<Frans> +1
<RaulGarciaCastro> +1
<MattPerry> +1
<Alejandro_Llaves> +1
<DanhLePhuoc> +1
next agenda item: clarify use case work
frans had cirulated some questions
Clarifying Use Cases Work
frans: from use cases to requirments -- want to invite
externals
phil has asked public LOD gropu already
<phila> [10]Phil A's mail to the LOD list
[10] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lod/2015Feb/0036.html
ed: broader range of use cases as we can -- we should reach out
--open activity
happy to get feedback/input
frans -- e.g. developers who may not be here
ed: what are we missing?
+q
frans: invite them to look things over
kerry: share use cases with web of things?
<phila> [11]The Web of Things Interest Group
[11] http://www.w3.org/WoT/
<ChrisLit> +q
chrislittle: I approached medical domain people and
medical/environmental, I dont have anything yet
chris: also talking to 3D people
<Zakim> phila, you wanted to talk about medical and satellites
phil: medical university member is joining wg to add stuff for
us in this domain
<billroberts> +q process for contributing use cases?
phil: satellite imagery and sensors chinese academy of sciences
-- but meeting time is bad for them
<SimonCox> And Melbourne!
<Zakim> process, you wanted to discuss contributing use cases?
scribe is lost...
<eparsons> edit the wiki !!
<billroberts> understood! will do
eparsons: cut off date prior to f2f
cutoff date for use cases on wiki to be 1 march
+1
<Linda> +1
<ChrisLit> +1
<SimonCox> +1
<OscarCorcho> +1
<RaulGarciaCastro> +1
<CoryHenson> +1
<billroberts> +1
<Frans> Is the cutoff date the same as the start date for
requirements?
PROPOSED: deadline for use cases 1 March
<IanHolt> +1
<Alejandro_Llaves> +1
<Clemens> +1
<MattPerry> +1
<Frans> +1
<Adila> +1
<AndreaPerego> +1
<Ioannis> +1
s/Maqrch/March/
<DanhLePhuoc> +1
<billroberts> what's the likely frequency of F2F meetings?
(speaking as someone who can't make the March Barcelona mtg due
to prior obligations)
requirements development will start at the f2f meeting,
including grouping common requirements
ed: is this ok? other views?
frans: I start seeing things already emerging from use cases :
also this is the time to invite external stakeholders
clemens: some use cases are general, others specific
<Zakim> Clemens, you wanted to discuss detail of use cases
clemens: most use cases will need more work before requirements
emerge
ed: process on document development -- use cases may be brought
up to common level as we develop the deliverable?
<ChrisLit> +q
phil: generally editors will be responsible for this , there
will be a style by looking at other use case documents
ed: at some point the whole group must be satisfied, all drafts
visible on github,
each doc gets url plus latest version url that allows for keep
updating, you can publish first draft when it is not finished
but is ready for public comments
<Frans> So it is up to the editors to get started with the
requirements document?
once it transitions to TR space it cannot then be edited
chris: suggest editors take whats on wiki then structure with
actors, processes, tabular format bu we do not lose original
text -- need to trace back to original
ed: use cases finishes 1 march, then a couple of weeks starting
on doc, and f2f to validate and same page
<billroberts> yep +1
<IanHolt> +1
<Frans> +1
<ChrisLit> +1
<AndreaPerego> +1
<Alejandro_Llaves> +1
<CoryHenson> +1
editors for use case deliverable
phil: meeting new head of standards of OGC tomorrow to ensure
we can line up for both standards bodies
<phila> [12]https://github.com/w3c/dwbp
[12] https://github.com/w3c/dwbp
phil: explains w3c process by reference to data on the web
<phila> [13]https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/blob/gh-pages/bp.html
[13] https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/blob/gh-pages/bp.html
<phila> [14]http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html
[14] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html
html has a lot missing, because respec adds this stuff like
headers and TOC
editor must write html by hand or there are special editors,
but you do not do logos or style sheets
phil: respec becomes easy to use,phil and ingo will help
ed: send email to put your hand up:
+q
ingo: docs go through several committees
<ChrisLit> +q
<Linda> +q
chirs: tech commitee then planning ctee process is getting
looser, standards groups can do prelim releases to public
before freezing doc
<ChrisLit> -q
<SimonCox> use-case document would probably be OGC 'Discussion
Paper' ?
linda: is the OGC view that we are SWG or DWG?
<SimonCox> It will not recommend any tech or practices,
therefore not a 'Best Practice'
<phila> Here's an example of a first public working draft of a
use case document. Note the open issues etc
[15]http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-csvw-ucr-20140327/
[15] http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-csvw-ucr-20140327/
ed: dwg , but we will create SWG when we are ready
<Clemens> +1 to Simon
<SimonCox> SWG per normative recommendation
simon: use case doc is not a "best practice" in ogc, more
likely a discussion paper
ed: aob?
... summarises use case development plan
... close meeting
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