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Re: Princples...

From: Clemens Portele <portele@interactive-instruments.de>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:53:30 +0200
Cc: Ed Parsons <eparsons@google.com>, Kerry Taylor <Kerry.Taylor@csiro.au>, SDW WG Public List <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>, john.machin@abs.gov.au
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To: "Frans. Knibbe@Geodan. Nl" <frans.knibbe@geodan.nl>
Hi Frans, 

I like you proposal. It nicely brings some parallel discussion threads together - and without requiring additonal pages/documents beside the existing deliverables.

Best regards,
Clemens



> On 21 Apr 2015, at 11:27, Frans Knibbe <frans.knibbe@geodan.nl> wrote:
> 
> Hello all, 
> 
> I notice Principle no. 1 (The linkabilty of Geospatial Information published on the web should be improved) largely coincides with the linkability requirement that we have already identified. This leads me to the question: what is the relationship between requirements and principles? I think there is a good chance that the princples are the same as the non-functional requirements that we talked about in this thread <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2015Apr/0036.html>. 
> 
> Now this thead shows that there is a desire to make non-functional requirements explicit. So how about adding a chapter the the UCR document to decribe non-functional requirements? Like functional requirements, we could link non-functional requirements to deliverables. This thread is specifically about the Best Practices, but some principles could also apply to other deliverables. 
> 
> Regards,
> Frans
> 
> 
> 
> 2015-04-20 12:25 GMT+02:00 Ed Parsons <eparsons@google.com <mailto:eparsons@google.com>>:
> hi all,
> 
> thanks for your contributions i think all are really relevant, however I think we need to get the level of these right, perhaps the last couple are a bit too detailed and are more how rather than why.. we should aim for principles that describe what we are trying to acheive not how we achieve them...
> 
> Happy to debate this point of course...
> 
> ed
> 
> Ed Parsons
> Geospatial Technologist, Google
> 
> Sent from a mobile device, excuse my thumbs..
> 
> On 20 Apr 2015 03:27, <Kerry.Taylor@csiro.au> wrote:
> Here's 2 suggestions ( that may need improvement). 
> 
> No 5. That community good practice for 5 star linked data be followed, including the use of so-called cool uris and  ontology annotations ( references need to be attached) 
> 
> No 6. That ontologies  conform (" are valid" ? check) to the language of  owl2 dl. 
> (The latter is important for spatial and temporal reasoning.)
> 
> No 7. ( perhaps number  0) That these principles are aimed specifically at data published in RDF but where appropriate may also apply to other spatial data published on the web.
> 
> 
> Kerry
> 
> On 20 Apr 2015, at 8:17 am, "John Machin" <john.machin@abs.gov.au <mailto:john.machin@abs.gov.au>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ed, Andreas,
>> 
>> I like the proposed principles so far. 
>> 
>> Based on some of the comments in the last call, I wonder if we have to have a principle related to keeping the practices up to date?
>> 
>> I realise that this might over-commitment from a WG with a specified lifespan but if maintaining currency is a principle then the two sponsor organisations may be encouraged to reconvene WGs to review and update the Best Practices periodically.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> --
>> John Machin
>> 
>> <graycol.gif>Andreas Harth ---18/04/2015 05:57:59 AM---Hi Ed, On 2015-04-16 14:10, Ed Parsons wrote:
>> 
>> From: Andreas Harth <harth@kit.edu <mailto:harth@kit.edu>>
>> To: <public-sdw-wg@w3.org <mailto:public-sdw-wg@w3.org>>, 
>> Date: 18/04/2015 05:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: Princples...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Ed,
>> 
>> On 2015-04-16 14:10, Ed Parsons wrote:
>> > So to start the ball rolling....
>> >
>> > Princple No.1 : The linkabilty of Geospatial Information published on
>> > the web should be improved.
>> >
>> [...]
>> >
>> > Princple No.2 : We will not reinvent
>> >
>> [...]
>> >
>> > Feel free to add to these, develop more ... when we reach a level of
>> > agreement I will transfer them over to the wiki
>> 
>> How about the following?
>> 
>> Principle No.3 : Best Practices have to be visible.
>> 
>> We will link to at least one (or two, three?) publicly available
>> example(s) of a non-toy dataset that follows the best practice.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Andreas.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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