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Re: Changes to the hosted extension model Fwd: Schema.org v3.5 release candidate for review

From: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 10:15:16 -0700
Message-ID: <CAFfrAFrE54he0dBP9eLoT3wdHQeAvBxsrzxkQnirRGvq4PQRBg@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Gray, Alasdair J G" <A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk>
Cc: danbri <danbri@google.com>, public-bioschemas@w3.org, "public-schemaorg@w3.org" <public-schemaorg@w3.org>
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019, 08:10 Gray, Alasdair J G, <A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Dan
>
> Thanks for cross-posting this to the Bioschemas mailing list and keeping
> us abreast of the updates to schema.org processes.
>
> I think that the new approach will improve the understandability of the
> schema.org vocabulary and in particular its namespaces.
>
> What is not so clear is the process for getting types and properties into
> the pending area. In the Bioschemas community we have been working on types
> and properties for describing life sciences resources and are stabilising
> on a particular set of types and properties. In a few months time we hope
> to be in a position of being able to demonstrate many resources marked up
> with these types and properties as well as a range of applications
> consuming the markup. However, one difficulty that we already encounter is
> that our types and properties do not appear in the schema.org namespace.
> So how do we now go about pushing these to pending?
>

That's why I have been bugging you all for a proposal of what
changes/additions you actually want! Once we have that the work of adding
is a technicality. Look in the data/ext/pending/ folder for examples of
other definitions. You can either send a PR on Github or I can help. Why
don't we do that this week rather than in a few months?

Dan


thanks
>
> Alasdair
>
> On 21 Mar 2019, at 02:57, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello bioschemas folk. Here's a note on some changes we're making at
> Schema.org in terms of how extensions are structured, published and
> named. I've mentioned to some of you that such a change was likely. It
> should not affect the detail of bioschema proposals heavily, but it does
> re-iterate the importance of establishing the use of new schemas. We'll use
> the "Pending" area for any proposals that bubble out of the Bioschemas
> community, which is the way most recent substantive additions to
> Schema.org have also been handled. Any questions - feel free to ask...
>
> cheers,
>
> Dan
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 at 19:54
> Subject: Changes to the hosted extension model Fwd: Schema.org v3.5
> release candidate for review
> To: schema.org Mailing List <public-schemaorg@w3.org>
>
>
>
> I'm creating a separate thread here for one topic, regarding changes to
> our "hosted extensions" model. The document at
> https://webschemas.org/docs/extension.html provides an overview.
>
> The essential change is a move away from using named subdomains (
> xyz.schema.org) to tag subsections of schema.org, e.g. "bib", "auto",
> etc. For now we retain the notion that terms are "in" areas of the site,
> but this is no longer to be reflected in site navigation URLs.
>
> This change is motivated by a desire for greater simplicity and clarity.
> Publishers were confused about whether the URL for a term when used in
> markup needed the subdomain, and on whether the "hosted extension" terms
> were "really in" schema.org or not. It has also become clear that the use
> of subdomains was a poor fit with the complex, inter-connected nature of
> schema development - many topics overlap in subtle ways, and cannot easily
> be partitioned into separate disconnected areas.
>
> We continue to welcome collaborations around improving schema.org, and as
> always retain our explicit focus
> <https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/blob/master/README.md> on
> "designs that are grounded in large scale usage on the Web, in particular
> usage by data-consuming applications since these in turn motivate data
> publishers". The updated extensions documentation
> <https://webschemas.org/docs/extension.html> highlights our existing use
> of the "Pending" area as our preferred way to bring in new proposed
> vocabulary. The Pending section gives us a faster way of publishing
> proposals and experimental improvements. As and when applications start
> using those terms, we can move them out of the Pending area.
>
> cheers,
>
> Dan
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 at 19:27
> Subject: Schema.org v3.5 release candidate for review
> To: schema.org Mailing List <public-schemaorg@w3.org>, St├ęphane
> Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com>, Tom Marsh <
> tmarsh@exchange.microsoft.com>, Vicki Tardif Holland <vtardif@google.com>,
> Nicolas Torzec <torzecn@oath.com>, Yuliya Tihohod <tilid@yandex-team.ru>,
> R.V. Guha <guha@google.com>
>
>
>
> Dear Schema.org Community Group, Steering Group, interested parties,
> Based on discussions here and in Github, here is a
> proposal for a new Schema.org release, version 3.5:
>
> http://webschemas.org/docs/releases.html#v3.5
>
> I'd like to aim at publishing this in the first week of April. Bugs,
> mistakes,
> typos, modeling and example improvements and other detailed review
> comments are welcome here or in the issue tracker at
> https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/2052
>
> cheers,
>
> Dan
>
> ps. as usual there are a few pieces of the release that will be put
> together
> at the end (anything involving exact release dates, dated snapshots etc.,
> plus a better release summary and hyperlinking of terms in the release
> notes).
>
>
> --
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