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Re: Tuition at schools and universities

From: Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 17:21:29 +0100
To: public-schemaorg@w3.org
Message-ID: <95f99f79-ad74-1d4d-c186-6981f59c6947@pjjk.co.uk>
Thanks for the clarification Thad.

Noting that we're moving on, but if anyone does ever want to pick this 
up: costOfAttendance could be a useful property for an 
EducationalOrganization. The cost of courses could be handled through 
Offers that are free for those attending an Institution, but charged for 
(or just not offered to) others.

Phil


On 26/09/18 17:00, Thad Guidry wrote:
> The cost of a Course is different than the cost of a semester at a 
> School, commonly known as "tuition" and sometimes amalgamated as "cost 
> of attendance".
> Perhaps we can skip the "tuition" question completely...it seems its 
> subjective and the data collection is done by Governments already in 
> most cases.
> In the USA, the US Congress and Department of Education collect the 
> CoA (Cost of Attendance) and publish this updated data every year.
>
> Thanks Phil.
> I think we can move on and skip the need for this "tuition" property 
> and leave it for others to maintain and collect the variable yearly 
> data around it.
>
> -Thad
> +ThadGuidry <https://plus.google.com/+ThadGuidry>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 3:22 AM Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk 
> <mailto:phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     No magic eggs from me Thad :) I suspect it's some Google custom
>     search magic that sees the link between tuition (in sense of
>     teaching or instruction, not as shorthand for paying for it) and
>     educational establishments.
>
>     Here's how we answered the use case of finding the cost of a
>     course:
>     https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Cost_of_course
>     (with link to the discussion, if you want to dig through why it's
>     not a direct property)
>
>     (That reminds me, there's a lot on that community group wiki that
>     I should put in to the schema.org <http://schema.org> git hub wiki)
>
>     Phil
>
>
>     On 25/09/18 23:58, Thad Guidry wrote:
>>     So I did a quick search to try to find "tuition" or "tuition
>>     fee", a new property exposed in Wikidata now with
>>     https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P5894
>>
>>     When I tried our search it came back with 2 Type results...
>>     School and CollegeOrUniversity
>>     as shown here:
>>     https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=003736913799082383568:c44bi0_xxek
>>
>>     But when I search our Github repo... the term "tuition" is no
>>     where to be found in Code.
>>
>>     So why is it showing up for those 2 Types ? Puzzled...
>>
>>     (I wonder if Phil Barker stored some magic easter eggs somehow ?)
>>
>>     Anyways, I need help mapping the new Wikidata property, but it
>>     doesn't seem like we expose "tuition" or "tuition fee" through a
>>     direct property but instead through our standard "makesOffer" ->
>>     "Offer" ?
>>
>>     -Thad
>>     +ThadGuidry <https://plus.google.com/+ThadGuidry>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. http://people.pjjk.net/phil
PJJK Limited <https://www.pjjk.co.uk>: technology to enhance learning; 
information systems for education.
CETIS LLP <https://www.cetis.org.uk>: a cooperative consultancy for 
innovation in education technology.

PJJK Limited is registered in Scotland as a private limited company, 
number SC569282.
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England number OC399090
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