Re: Historical events

I think, respectfully, Thad, that you might not be understanding what is needed. I would not really have a strong desire to use sameAs, myself. This isn't about "too much work," really. What I am trying to do, and I might be inferring correctly that Roger is, too, is to have a simple schema.org<http://schema.org> markup that addresses events other than commercial events. That would be either to have Event as a category under which commercial events and historical events are subcategories, or have Occurence or some such category.

I am curious about Peter Patel-Schneider's concern "about stretching schema.org/Event<http://schema.org/Event> to cover ... things like WWII whose location is certainly not 'certain', or even
anything that is not the kind of event that has performers and attendees." Why is that?

I see, when I read about the Community Group and Steering Group (http://schema.org/docs/about.html#cgsg), that "other W3C Community Groups exist that are focussed partially or entirely on schema.org improvements, e.g. health and medicine<https://www.w3.org/community/schemed/>, sports<https://www.w3.org/community/sport-schema/>,archives<https://www.w3.org/community/architypes/>, libraries and bibliography<https://www.w3.org/community/schemabibex/>, autos<https://www.w3.org/community/gao/>..."

I wonder if there is someone on this list who is knowledgeable about these other groups and could provide some information about what one might do if one wanted to improve on markup for, say, history and culture?

- Allison



On May 31, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> wrote:

Roger,

Depends on what you are trying to do.

I taking a stance that most of the time there's no need to tell a machine that something is historical if you can reconcile the entity before hand and provide data about that.

Most machines will know and understand (if they are decently built and programmed) to know that "Battle of Gettysburg" is a historical event.
There's no need to tell most machines that...

HistoricalEvent: Battle of Gettysburg

if you could possibly reconcile your entities (your welcome to use my community's latest OpenRefine against Wikidata for that)
and instead of providing Strings...provide Things...

HistoricalEvent: "Battle of Gettysburg
sameAs: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q33132

Machines can easily find out lots of information by parsing Wikipedia itself like Google does, if you provide a sameAs url, or perhaps even better a Wikidata or DBPedia url.

Giving us a better example of what you are trying to do would be most appreciated by all.

My hunch is that you don't so much care about "Battle of Gettysburg" but relations around it ?  What are those relations that you trying to establish ?  That it was partOf: American Civil War ?
What else ?

Help us and we can help you,
-Thad


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Allison Muri
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