- From: Anthony Moretti <anthony.moretti@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 17:09:10 -0700
- To: Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@dataliberate.com>
- Cc: "Muri, Allison" <allison.muri@usask.ca>, Simon Cox <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com>, Vicki Tardif Holland <vtardif@google.com>, roger@ecstatic.com, "schema.org Mailing List" <public-schemaorg@w3.org>
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Ahaha, same idea as Simon 😂
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 5:06 PM Anthony Moretti <anthony.moretti@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Look, I'm no temporal expert or anything, but maybe the problem is in
> English it could be a continuum from "event" to "period" as the interval of
> time being named gets longer, with no clear boundary.
>
> Mike's birthday party - an event
> The Middle Ages - a period
>
> Because from a data modeling point of view they're the same (at least as
> far as my modeling knowledge goes).
>
> So an unpopular solution I'm guessing would be to rename the type to
> *EventOrPeriod*.
>
> So your previous example:
>
> The Black Death
> superEventOrPeriod: The Middle Ages
>
> People's ideas?
>
> Anthony
>
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 4:10 PM Richard Wallis <
> richard.wallis@dataliberate.com> wrote:
>
>> Anthony,
>>
>> I’m not following your logic here. I don’t see a Period (of time from a
>> start time/date to an end date/time) as an event.
>>
>> ~Richard.
>>
>> Richard Wallis
>> Founder, Data Liberate
>> http://dataliberate.com
>> Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis
>> Twitter: @rjw
>>
>> On 20 June 2018 at 00:05, Anthony Moretti <anthony.moretti@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That definitely works, but only if some definition of Period was agreed
>>> on.
>>>
>>> The property periodEventOccurred would be a subproperty of superEvent in
>>> any case:
>>>
>>> superEvent
>>>
>>> periodEventOccurred
>>>
>>>
>>> So you could describe the same information using the existing term right?
>>>
>>> The Black Death
>>>
>>> superEvent: The Middle Ages
>>>
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:50 PM Richard Wallis <
>>> richard.wallis@dataliberate.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Using a Period Type I would suggest a cleaner alternative way of saying
>>>> an event occurred during a period would be like this:
>>>>
>>>> {
>>>> "@context": "http://schema.org",
>>>> "@type": "Event",
>>>> "name": "The Black Death",
>>>> "Description": "A pandemic that spread throughout Europe",
>>>> "periodEventOccured": {
>>>> "@type": "Period",
>>>> "name": "The Middle Ages",
>>>> "approximateStartDate": "400AD",
>>>> "approximateEndDate":"1500AD"
>>>> }
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> On 19 June 2018 at 23:41, Anthony Moretti <anthony.moretti@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was referencing the development version of Schema, I should probably
>>>>> reference production, sorry Roger:
>>>>>
>>>>> - https://schema.org/subEvent
>>>>> - https://schema.org/superEvent
>>>>>
>>>>> To say some event happened during the Iron Age for example:
>>>>>
>>>>> Invention of iron plow
>>>>> superEvent: Iron Age
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:05 PM Muri, Allison <allison.muri@usask.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The google Cloud host is really slow and I think the 404 is a result
>>>>>> of something loading too slowly. I could probably publish this more
>>>>>> reliably on my own website! I generally just wait a bit and reload the
>>>>>> page. Sorry about that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2018, at 3:58 PM, Roger Rohrbach <roger@ecstatic.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I get 404 Not Found for both of those pages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Anthony Moretti <
>>>>>> anthony.moretti@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't it already modeled by these properties?:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - https://webschemas.org/subEvent
>>>>>> - https://webschemas.org/superEvent
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Events can exist in part-whole hierarchies, aren't named periods just
>>>>>> events high in these hierarchies?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anthony
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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