Re: Creating new Schemas?

I did open a GitHub issue a while back (
https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/1324) but it was closed. I
have since tried to get in touch with Dan Brickley to try and get the
wheels rolling, but I’ve not had a response as of yet.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 at 16:16, Martin Hepp <mfhepp@gmail.com> wrote:

> As a general comment: I think that discussions about well-defined topical
> extension proposals for schema.org are much better organized by
>
> 1. creating an issue in Github and
> 2. discussing that issue in Github.
>
> This mailing list is IMHO unsuited for this, because
>
> 1. the discussion is hard to trace and
> 2. many people not interested in the proposed area are paying a high toll
> in terms of email traffic.
>
> While I am not the one to decide, I propose to use the mailing list
> primarily for discussing architectural aspects or those that span many
> issues (like releases, events, etc.).
>
>
> Best wishes
> Martin Hepp
>
> -----------------------------------
> martin hepp  http://www.heppnetz.de
> mhepp@computer.org          @mfhepp
>
>
>
>
> > On 24 Jul 2018, at 17:08, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mr. Bean :-) ,
> >
> > Some folks just use Roles for describing awards through "actions" of
> achievements, winning, giving, receiving, etc.
> >
> > https://schema.org/AchieveAction
> > https://schema.org/WinAction
> > https://schema.org/GiveAction
> > https://schema.org/ReceiveAction
> >
> > There has been debate around the web however, on where "award"ing is
> handled... either on "result" or "object" or both.  I never did look into
> that deeply, but I think "result" is the right place for the Award Thing
> type. (which we don't have, so just use Thing with "sameAs": "
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q618779" )
> >
> > Best of luck !
> > -Thad
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 9:37 AM Martin Bean <martin@martinbean.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > Thanks, Martin. Much appreciated!
> >
> > My thinking of an award/championship schema was, it had applications
> outside of combat sports. All I can find currently is a simple, text-only
> property in https://schema.org/award. A proper Award schema could have
> properties for its name, description, as well as its recipients. So not
> only could it be used to represent things like championship titles but
> other bona fide awards such as the Academy Awards, Nobel Prizes, the FIFA
> World Cup, and so on.
> >
> > I will start drafting something more “official” and open a pull request
> in due course. Thanks again for the pointers!
> >
> > On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 at 14:59, Martin Hepp <mfhepp@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Martin,
> > in a nutshell, a small-sized pull-request on Github is the way to go.
> But before you invest the work, you need to evaluate whether there is an
> actual need and a sufficient interest by major consumers of schema.org
> data. We typically do not extend the vocabulary for the sake of extending
> it; most work is driven by immediate needs and hands-on use-cases.
> >
> > If you decide to go forward, here are few hints:
> >
> > - Write a concise and compelling motivation for your proposal and host
> it somewhere.
> > - Start small. Even major extensions (hotels, auto, fibo, ...) had to be
> very small in size. 1 - 2 new types plus a few properties are ideal. 5 - 9
> might be if they cover a major new use-case. More than 20 is hardly
> accepted.
> > - Deliver an end-to-end proposal, with
> >
> > ** well-crafted names and descriptions etc. that are consistent with
> schema.org naming conventions
> > ** zero syntactical and conceptual errors, in particular the proper
> reuse of existing elements
> > ** correct and carefully designed examples in all relevant syntaxes
> >
> > Your proposal must be convincing at first sight. Nobody will take the
> effort for polishing your proposal or fixing conceptual or syntactical
> flaws.
> >
> > It will be a lot of work to champion for such a proposal. A good start
> will be smaller contributions, like crafting missing examples for existing
> elements.
> >
> > For instance, https://schema.org/PropertyValue and
> https://schema.org/additionalProperty took me almost two years from the
> first proposal to acceptance.
> >
> > This is just my personal view, but based on a lot of experience.
> >
> > Please take this as advice and support, not discouragement.
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > -----------------------------------
> > martin hepp  http://www.heppnetz.de
> > mhepp@computer.org          @mfhepp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 24 Jul 2018, at 15:43, Martin Bean <martin@martinbean.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > How does one go about getting involved in the
> creation/drafting/proposing of new Schemas?
> > >
> > > I’m keen to work on establishing combat sport-related Schemas. The
> most useful one for me right now would be an “award” or ”championship”
> schema.
> > >
> > > I’ve tried reaching out on GitHub and via email on information on how
> to become more “involved” in the drafting and defining of Schemas, but
> struggling to get any response.
> > >
> > > If someone could point me in the direction of a person or official
> documentation on establishing Schemas, that would be most helpful.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Martin Bean
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> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Martin Bean
> > Web developer, consultant, author, and speaker
> >
> > Website: martinbean.co.uk
> > Twitter: @martinbean
> > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/martinbean
> > Skype: mcbwebdesign
>
>

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