- From: Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 03 May 2017 15:01:52 +0000
- To: Vicki Tardif Holland <vtardif@google.com>, Martin Hepp <mfhepp@gmail.com>
- Cc: Stuart Sutton <sasutton@dublincore.net>, Michael Andrews <nextcontent01@gmail.com>, Nicolas Torzec <torzecn@yahoo-inc.com>, Maxim Angel <maxim_angel@live.co.uk>, "public-schemaorg@w3.org" <public-schemaorg@w3.org>, "R.V.Guha" <guha@guha.com>, Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>
- Message-ID: <CAChbWaM-pOGCDZMK2suDvEydqvE5foUisLFYT1NyLxjbGZoCTw@mail.gmail.com>
Vicki, ah yes, forgot that time-mediation was part of Role itself ! Problem solved there. So it would look like this I guess once skills is added as allowed to Person <script type="application/ld+json"> { "@context": "http://schema.org", "@type": "Person", "name": "Delia Derbyshire", "sameAs": "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delia_Derbyshire", "skills": { "@type": "Role", "skills": "typing, knitting", "startDate": "1959" } } </script> -Thad +ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:33 PM Vicki Tardif Holland <vtardif@google.com> wrote: > Respectfully, we already have http://schema.org/skills. Can we use that > to avoid adding another term to the flat namespace? > > http://schema.org/Role was mentioned. Why isn't that sufficient for > date-mediated skills? > > - Vicki > > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Martin Hepp <mfhepp@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I would suggest to consider a subtype of http://schema.org/PropertyValue >> for representing skills. This will give a lot of flexibility while >> preserving data granularity from the source. >> >> ----------------------------------- >> martin hepp http://www.heppnetz.de >> mhepp@computer.org @mfhepp >> >> >> >> >> > On 03 May 2017, at 12:29, Stuart Sutton <sasutton@dublincore.net> >> wrote: >> > >> > I would suggest using competence ("The ability to do something >> successfully or efficiently"...Synoyms "capability, ability, competency, >> proficiency, accomplishment, expertise, skill, prowess, mastery, talent". >> > >> > On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 9:14 PM, Michael Andrews < >> nextcontent01@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I agree there's a need to be able to represent skills in schema.org. >> To make the implementation serve the needs of many, I suggest considering >> the following: >> > >> > -- Don't tie skills with job titles. People can have active skills >> that aren't used in their current position (e.g., they are a native speaker >> of a language when in a job that doesn't require that language.) People >> may have skills developed or available for volunteer experiences that >> aren't formal jobs. >> > -- People may also have multiple, concurrent, overlapping jobs, rather >> than serial jobs with clearly defined start and end dates. Job titles can >> be a poor indication of what someone is doing when people are doing >> multiple roles at once. For people with portfolio careers, it makes more >> sense to speak of "projects" rather than job titles, with the project >> involving one or more roles. >> > -- Consider a broader category of "expertise" to capture less >> task-oriented knowledge. An academic might have expertise on bond markets >> or privacy law, even though they are not a bond trader or a practicing >> lawyer. >> > >> > Michael >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Please consider... >> > >> > Lost skills. Historical skills. I used to be an aerospace mechanic, I >> no longer have those skills (well a few but many I have forgotten). I am >> now a Data Architect. >> > We want to allow for time-mediation of skills as well. And a way for >> someone to say what their "CURRENT" skills are. >> > >> > "CURRENT" against any particular skill needs to be captured. This can >> be done with a property called "currentSkills" on Person. >> > >> > For everything else...What we need is to finish the effort of the >> existing CV/Resume proposal here >> https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/603 >> > >> > jobTitle >> > worksFor >> > workLocation >> > >> > are for "CURRENT" status of a Person. And I would argue that those >> need to be prefixed with "current" such as "currentJobTitle", etc. >> > >> > But we also want time-mediation for all of those, not just >> current...I.E., a history of a persons employment. That is captured in the >> proposal above. >> > And with that proposal, there would be a "cv/resume" property that >> expects a type of CV/RESUME that can allow for much more flexibility and >> time-mediation. >> > >> > In fact, time-mediation is needed in a lot of areas of Schema.org. We >> might even consider some higher level abstraction of time-mediation against >> any particular property when it is needed.. Just as Wikidata and others do. >> > But this will need Guha's deep thought processes :) >> > >> > -Thad >> > +ThadGuidry >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 7:54 AM Nicolas Torzec <torzecn@yahoo-inc.com> >> wrote: >> > Hi Maxim, >> > I like the idea of adding a 'skill' property to schema.org/Person for >> capturing Resumes. >> > >> > In addition, you probably want to use a reified version of >> 'affiliation' and 'alumniOf' so you can use them as roles with startDate >> and endDate. >> > >> > See http://blog.schema.org/2014/06/introducing-role.html >> > >> > Cheers. >> > N. >> > >> > >> > On Monday, May 1, 2017, 5:24:14 AM PDT, Maxim Angel < >> maxim_angel@live.co.uk> wrote: >> > Please add property "skill" to "Person" type, so many people want to use >> > schema.org/Person for creating CV >> > >> > >> >> >> >
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