Re: schema.org for educational courses

Given there are multiple documents and email threads, is there a preferred
way to send comments?

- Vicki

Vicki Tardif Holland | Ontologist | vtardif@google.com


On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hello all, this is essentially an invite to get involved with building a
> schema extension for educational courses, by way of a description of some
> of the work so far.
>
> I'm sending this primarily to the schema.org mail list, but cc-ing to
> LRMI and DC-Education where I hope there will also be some interest. (In
> case you don't know, LRMI = Learning Resource Metadata Initiative, part of
> DCMI. I'm a member of the task group, you are welcome to get involved if it
> sounds interesting[1].)
>
> About a year ago there was a flurry of discussion about wanting to markup
> descriptions of courses in schema [2]. Vicky Tardiff-Holland produced a
> proposal [3] which we discussed in LRMI and elsewhere as a result of which
> various suggestions were and comments were added to that proposal.
>
> I also led some work in LRMI around scope, use cases, requirements,
> existing data; which I hoped would lead to some validating/refining the
> proposal by some example data that could be used to demonstrate that it met
> the use cases [4].
>
> I am up for another push on courses. I share the doc I was working on [4]
> in the hope that it is good starting point. It's a bit long, so here is an
> overview of what it contains:
>
> * - scope:* concerning discovery of any type of educational course
> (online/offline, long/short, scheduled/on-demand) Educational course
> defined as "some sequence of events and/or creative works which aims to
> build knowledge, competence or ability of learners". (out of scope:
> information about students and their progression etc; information needed
> internally for course management rather than discovery)
>
> *- comparators*: a review of some established ways of sharing similar data
>
>
>
>
> *- use cases - requirements arising from the use cases - mapping to some
> existing examples*. I used hypothes.is[5] to annotate existing web pages
> that describe different types of course, e.g. from Coursera or a
> University, tagging the requirement that the data was relevant to. Here's
> an example of a page as tagged: <https://goo.gl/1IWjOh>
> https://goo.gl/1IWjOh (click on a yellow highlight to show the relevant
> requirement as a comment with a tag)
> hypothes.is aggregates the selected information for each tag, to give a
> list of the information relevant to each use case, for example
> https://hypothes.is/stream?q=tag:%27reqC%27
>
> I think the next step would be to review the use cases and requirements in
> light of some of the observations from the mapping, and to look again at
> the proposal to see how it reflects the data available/required. But first
> I want to try to get more people involved, see whether anyone has a better
> idea for how to progress, or if anyone wants to check the work so far and
> help move it forward.
>
> I'm aware the docs and discussions so far around schema for courses are a
> scattered set of scraps and drafts. If there is enough interest it would be
> really useful to have it in one place.
>
> Phil
>
> 1. Task group at http://wiki.dublincore.org/index.php/AB-Comm/ed/LRMI/TG
> , specs at http://dublincore.org/dcx/lrmi-terms/1.1/ and general info at
> http://www.lrmi.net/
> 2. See issue 195 on github
> https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/195
> 3.
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12YWjLzZC8FiTiOwSAETRIEozeqZdn6O8a4fgqK4t5Ss/edit#
> 4.
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U-s5HjNkWUtIoLAHjRcUZljBWEdHQIupk-KscAEIbFA/edit#
> 5. https://hypothes.is/
>
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