- From: Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org>
- Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 13:56:59 +0000
- To: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>, "public-schemabibex@w3.org" <public-schemabibex@w3.org>
Antoine, My comment about purl.org was only to point out that *.schema.org would be another potential recipe for people to consider: http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-vocab-pub/#purls Jeff > -----Original Message----- > From: Antoine Isaac [mailto:aisaac@few.vu.nl] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:10 AM > To: public-schemabibex@w3.org > Subject: Re: SchemaBibEx and bib.schema.org > > Hi everyone, > > I think this is an interesting proposal, and approves that this group would be > an ideal forum to devise such an extension. > > What I'm slightly worried about is the persistence of schema.org extensions, > if the community starts using them a lot. > > Jeff mentioned about purl.org in the proposal > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1- > hq53ZtP1NxRqpjCCuhVRRwqQmEuaAzWDQ7OuG18_pg/ > I'm not sure schema.org extensions are better in every point to purl.org. > Say, if OCLC shuts down purl.org and wishes to hand it over to someone else, > there might be a consensus (and a consortium) in the community to jump in > and maintain it. > If schema.org is shut down by Google et al, doing this would be more > difficult, given the variety of people and orgs involved in the extensions. > > I don't foresee shutting down schema.org as a problem per se. It is meant for > specific purposes, and if Google/Yahoo/Yandex think it's not working, so be > it: they are the core stakeholders, and I'm ok with such natural selection for > vocabularies. > > But the library community may start to rely on the schema.org extension for > "deeper" data exchange scenarios, beyond schema.org's orginal case of web > page mark-up. Some discussions and papers I've seen in the past couple of > months hint a bit at this. This could be an awkward dependency. > > Best, > > Antoine > > On 3/9/15 5:16 PM, Wallis,Richard wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Last month I copied the SchemaBibEx list with the proposal > <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-vocabs/2015Feb/0052.html> > from Guha, on the public-vocabs list, for an extension mechanism for the > Schema.org <http://Schema.org> vocabulary. > > > > As I said at the time, I welcome this proposal which will enable the broad > extension of Schema.org <http://Schema.org> to satisfy many needs of > individual sectors without loosing the essential generic cross sector nature of > Schema itself. I also have some confidence in the approach proposed as it > has been used in a very similar way to produce the BiblioGraph.net > <http://BiblioGraph.net> extension vocabulary that was referred to in the > proposal. > > > > In simple terms, my understanding of how this would operate is thus: > > > > * A group of individuals from an interested domain or sector would take > on the role of discussing and deciding what extension types and properties > could usefully be added to a [their] domain specific extension to schema.org > <http://schema.org>. > > o The domain group would manage their own publicly visible view of > what is current and proposed for their extensions - in Github for example. > > o The domain group would propose their initial, then later updates, > extension to the core Schema.org <http://Schema.org> group. > > > > * The core group upon receiving extension proposals would discuss and > recommend, only from the point of view of compatibility with the overall > vocabulary (Type & Property name conflicts etc.). > > o In effect they will be validating on syntax, not the semantics of and > areas covered by the extensions. > > o When accepted the schema.org <http://schema.org> site would be > configured to include the latest version of the extension and its associated > examples. > > > > > > I am suggesting that the SchemaBibEx Group, or a subset of it, is the ideal > group to act as the Domain Group for the broad bibliographic domain - > bib.schema.org <http://bib.schema.org>. > > > > What are people's thoughts on this - the extension proposal itself, > bib.schema.org <http://bib.schema.org>, the potential for our group to > participate as a domain group? > > > > Currently Guha's proposal is just a proposal, but I know there is discussion > and efforts going into establishing it as a way forward. Being able to offer > support and intention to offer up one of the first extensions I believe would > be good for Schema.org <http://Schema.org> and the broad description of > bibliographic data on the web. > > > > On a practical note, Guha's proposal used the small BibloGraph.net > <http://bibliograph.net/> extension vocabulary as an example to model > things on. As editor of BiblioGraph.net <http://BiblioGraph.net> I see no > problem with the terms within that vocabulary acting a seed for a > bib.schema.org <http://bib.schema.org> extension which would eventually > replace the current need for it. > > > > > > ~Richard > >
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