Re: An initial proposal for bib.schema.org

Richard,

If those are all considered "possbile Things in a library's collection",
then I actually have no problem with any of them being added to the BIB
extension.
Extensions are managed by the Domain Experts and much more fluid and open
for use by a Domain.  Hence, I will only provide some guidance:

1. I suggest re-wording the definition of FolderContainer : A container in
the form of a folder, physical or computer.
to
A container in the form of a folder, such as a manilla folder or a computer
file folder.
(In general, try to use Simple English to allow an easier path for language
translations...libraries are found around the world)

2. Properties should describe their use, not the Property parent type.  For
example:  http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/contains?ext=bib should have a
description that describes the property use, not the property parent, i.e.,
"This property can be used to..."


Thad
+ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry>

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Wallis,Richard <Richard.Wallis@oclc.org>
wrote:

>  Hi Tim,
>
>  At this early stage no.  Although that doesn’t rule out such
> considerations in the future.
>
>  As indicated, at the start of this thread, the current objective is to
> agree fairly rapidly an initial small set of types and properties as a
> start for this extension.  Once we have released that we can then address
> more detailed proposals that would go into followup proposals - a process I
> am more than happy to facilitate.
>
>  Once we have this initial work out of the door, maybe you would like to
> start a new thread addressing what we can learn/use/gain inspiration from
> RDA to advise Schema extension proposals in the future.
>
>
>  ~Richard
>
>  On 15 Apr 2015, at 15:04, Tim Knight/osgoode <TKnight@osgoode.yorku.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Has anyone considered incorporating the work done by the RDA Registry
> group into this proposal? <http://www.rdaregistry.info/Elements/>
> Best regards,
> Tim
>
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> From:        "Wallis,Richard" <Richard.Wallis@oclc.org>
> To:        "public-schemabibex@w3.org" <public-schemabibex@w3.org>,
> Date:        04/14/2015 05:27 PM
> Subject:        An initial proposal for bib.schema.org
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>
> Hi all,
>
> A few weeks back we discussed how this group or some of its members could
> participate as a bibliographic domain group to propose and review a
> bibliographic extension to *schema.org* <http://schema.org/> with the
> current working name of *bib.schema.org* <http://bib.schema.org/>.
>
> Since then I have been liaising with Dan Brickley and others in the main
> *Schema.org* <http://schema.org/> group who have been working to
> establish the hosting software that enables the extension capability.  This
> work is now close to being ready for release.  Dan has indicated that this
> provides an excellent opportunity for a bibliographic extension to be one
> of, if not the first, enabled and released in this way.  In preparation for
> this, Dan Scott and I have put together a candidate set of types and
> properties that could constitute an initial bib extension release, which
> this email introduces.
>
> There are many potential candidates for new/enhanced types and properties
> which the finessing and accepting of which would need to be the subject of
> some in depth discussion within this group.  To take advantage of the
> opportunity to release along with the capability release, however, we need
> to agree a starting subset fairly quickly.  To that end Dan and I have
> drawn up this initial (1.0) proposal consisting of what we believe to be
> things that are fairly noncontroversial.
>
> I list the proposed types and properties below with links to their
> representation in a development version of the *Schema.org*
> <http://schema.org/> site.  They are in three independent groups of
> proposals, for general bibliographic markup; some helpful things for the
> physical structure of archives & basic collections; and for comics.
>
> We can accept/reject either individual types and properties, or a whole
> group, because we need to explore things in more depth and defer things to
> a later release.  I would hope though that fairly quickly we could come to
> at least a subset of these as an initial release.
>
> A reminder that Dan Brickley is still working on the software capable of
> handling extensions so please view the content more than how it currently
> displays.
>
> General Bibliographic Types & Properties
>
>    - *Agent* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Agent>
>    - *Atlas* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Atlas>
>    - *Chapter* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Chapter>
>    - *Globe* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Globe>
>    - *Kit* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Kit>
>    - *Meeting* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Meeting>
>    - *Newspaper* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Newspaper>
>    - *MusicScore* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/MusicScore>
>    - *PublicationSeries* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/PublicationSeries>
>    - *Thesis* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Thesis>
>    - *Toy* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Toy>
>    - BookFormatType:*AudioBook* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/AudioBook>
>    - BookFormatType:*LargePrintBook*
>    <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/LargePrintBook>
>    - BookFormatType:*PrintBook* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/PrintBook>
>    - MapCategoryType:*CartographicMap*
>    <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/CartographicMap>
>    - *inSupportOf* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/inSupportOf>
>    - *translationOfWork* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/translationOfWork>
>    - *translator* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/translator>
>    - *workTranslation* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/workTranslation>
>
>
> Archive Containers/Collection
>
>    - *BoxContainer* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/BoxContainer>
>    - *Collection* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Collection>
>    - *Container* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Container>
>    - *FolderContainer* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/FolderContainer>
>    - *Shelf* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/Shelf>
>    - *contains* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/contains>
>    - *containedIn* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/containedIn>
>
>
> Comics
>
>    - *ComicIssue* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/ComicIssue>
>    - *ComicSeries* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/ComicSeries>
>    - *ComicStory* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/ComicStory>
>    - *CoverArt* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/CoverArt>
>    - *ComicCoverArt* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/ComicCoverArt>
>    - BookFormatType:*GraphicNovel*
>    <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/GraphicNovel>
>    - *artist* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/artist>
>    - *colorist* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/colorist>
>    - *inker* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/inker>
>    - *letterer* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/letterer>
>    - *penciler* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/penciler>
>    - *publisherImprint* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/publisherImprint>
>    - *variantCover* <http://sdo-bib.appspot.com/variantCover>
>
>
> I look forward to comments.
>
> ~Richard.
>
>
>