Re: Wikidata book schema

Tom, thanks.

Yes, I've got Freebase as one of my "studies." Not finished with it get, 
but that's today's chore. Thanks for the tips about some of their 
interesting practices.

I've looked at musicbrainz, which is more structured than many 
crowd-sourced sites. I also want to look at GoodReads and Librarything. 
I've done Open Library. Any other suggestions? Especially other non-book 
databases? I guess I should look at Europeana... ? what else?

kc

On 9/16/13 10:30 AM, Tom Morris wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net
> <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net>> wrote:
>
>       I've begun a (hopefully short) round-up of bibliographic sites to
>     see what levels of abstraction they use, and what they call them
>
>
> It's not a bibliographic site per se, but Freebase has a pretty
> comprehensive schema for book metadata.
>
> https://www.freebase.com/book
>
> They use "Book <https://www.freebase.com/book/book?schema=>" for the
> more abstract level and "Book Edition
> <https://www.freebase.com/book/book_edition?schema=>" for the more
> concrete level, but they also abstract out a "Written Work
> <https://www.freebase.com/book/written_work?schema=>" set of core
> properties which can then be reused in the context of a Poem
> <https://www.freebase.com/book/poem?schema=> (with additional properties
> for meter, etc), Short Story
> <https://www.freebase.com/book/short_story?schema=> or Play
> <https://www.freebase.com/theater/play?schema=>.  The Book type collects
> together Book Editions, but the bulk of the properties associated with
> works are on Written Work.
>
> Another thing they do differently is have a separate Cataloged Instance
> <https://www.freebase.com/media_common/cataloged_instance?schema=> type
> to hold ISBN numbers so that things like periodicals with ISBN numbers
> don't have to be called "Book Editions."  The Media Common
> <https://www.freebase.com/media_common> domain which contains Cataloged
> Instance also contains other generally useful types like Adaptation
> <https://www.freebase.com/media_common/adaptation?schema=>/Adapted Work,
> Translation/Translated Work, Publication/Published Work (to connect
> together works in a collection, etc)
>
> This is a more fine-grained model than is used today for books, but my
> personal hope is that at some point in the future we can use the energy
> freed up by not re-cataloging the same item 18 different times to do
> richer and more detailed cataloging in those areas where it's appropriate.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>     . This fits into that nicely.
>
>     kc
>
>
>     On 9/15/13 2:58 AM, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>
>         Dear all,
>
>         This may have been sent to the list before, but in case...
>         https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/__Wikidata:Books_task_force
>         <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Books_task_force>
>
>         I believe this can be a quite useful reference in terms of use case.
>         These are properties that somehow reflect user needs, it's
>         likely that
>         it would end expressed in schema.org <http://schema.org> one day.
>
>         Would it be a task for this group to have a look at this schema, and
>         flag any missing properties to schema.org <http://schema.org>?
>
>         Note that it could also bring input for our 'work' debate. They have
>         only two levels, work and edition. Apparently they regard the
>         edition to
>         be either the expression or manifestion (or both of them in
>         fact), and
>         the link between the edition and the work is simply 'edition of'.
>
>         Cheers,
>
>         Antoine
>
>
>
>     --
>     Karen Coyle
>     kcoyle@kcoyle.net <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net> http://kcoyle.net
>     m: 1-510-435-8234 <tel:1-510-435-8234>
>     skype: kcoylenet
>
>

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