- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 06:41:33 -0800
- To: "public-schemabibex@w3.org" <public-schemabibex@w3.org>
On 11/23/13 3:44 PM, Owen Stephens wrote: > I think the ISSN registry does indeed treat these as the 'ISSN' - so the > eISSN isn't a different kind of ISSN but just a different label for the > ISSN applied to an electronic publication. > > However there is a lot of common practice that treats the concept of the > journal 'title' as being something apart from the actual instantiations > and so groups the print and electronic versions together, thus needing > to differentiate through the use of the 'e' prefix for one of the ISSNs. > Two systems I'm involved in (KB+ and GOKb) do this I'm afraid to say, > and it is common practice in other 'knowledgebases' (SFX, SS360 etc.) as > well as being pretty much baked into the KBart guidelines > (http://www.uksg.org/kbart/s5/guidelines/data_field_labels). > > The ISSN-L is, as you say, an ISSN used to link things together but as > far as I understand it the ISSN-L is simple one of the existing ISSNs > for the title (not necessarily the ISSN for the print version, although > it commonly is) and is not intended as a separate identifier but simply > that one of the identifiers plays an additional role - although I'm not > sure this isn't just messing about with the semantics to be honest, and > in any case I don't think really helps us. Here's what the page [1] says: ***** Do publishers need to indicate when they are using ISSN-L as opposed to an ISSN? Yes, in order for the ISSN-L to work effectively, publishers need to clearly indicate when they are using an ISSN-L as opposed to an ISSN. The ISO standard recommendations for printing and displaying ISSN-L are as follows: “the linking ISSN shall be clearly distinguished as such by use of the label ISSN-L. In such cases, the label ISSN-L shall be written in uppercase and a space shall precede the 8 digits of the linking ISSN. Example : ISSN-L 0251-1479”. ***** It looks like LC has gone through their existing serial file and automagically created the ISSN-L subfield in the 022 (these are from old journals): 022 __ |a 0096-5340 |l 0096-5340 022 __ |a 0006-3541 |l 0006-3541 I can find some usage by searching on "ISSN-L": "Print edition: ISSN-L 2247 - 9880. Online edition: ISSN 2247 - 9880" "Editor-in-Chief:Dr. Ecaterina Patrascu Frequency:Monthly ISSN 2286-4822 ISSN-L 2286-4822" So it *is* being used - I was wrong about that. The question, though, is whether we need an actual property for the ISSN-L, or whether we can put this and the eISSN into an ISSN field. And if the latter, do we leave/put the "ISSN-L" or "eISSN" in the string value for the property? As I said to Diane, this gets us back to the "non-URI" identifiers question. How far do we want to go to accommodate these? What use cases exist that would help us decide? kc [1] http://www.issn.org/2-22637-What-is-an-ISSN-L.php > > To address the questions: > The concept of the 'eISSN' is useful as long as people continue to > represent the print and electronic versions as part of the same 'record' > - and I don't see this changing at the moment > I'm not confident that we can ignore the ISSN-L - this is a relatively > recent concept and my instinct is use will grow over the next few years > - again it is something that has been discussed in both the GOKb and KB+ > projects although no specific use yet I think there will be once we have > the data available. > > Owen > > > Owen Stephens > Owen Stephens Consulting > Web: http://www.ostephens.com > Email: owen@ostephens.com <mailto:owen@ostephens.com> > Telephone: 0121 288 6936 > > On 22 Nov 2013, at 23:10, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@KCOYLE.NET > <mailto:kcoyle@KCOYLE.NET>> wrote: > >> One of the examples I added includes the E-ISSN. I have mixed feelings >> about this, but I suspect it is quite common in metadata. (It seems to >> me that it should be an ISSN attached to an electronic publication, >> not a different kind of ISSN... oh well.) There is also the ISSN-L, >> which fortunately does not seem to be referred to much, so I hope we >> can ignore it. >> >> If you haven't run into ISSN-L, it is the ISSN of the print copy, and >> is presumably used to gather the various formats (E, print, whatever) >> together. The "L" stands for "linking." From the ISSN agency page: >> >> ISSN-L 0264-2875 >> Printed version: Dance research = ISSN 0264-2875 >> Online version: Dance research (Online) = ISSN 1750-0095 >> >> If you know of a growing use of these, please speak up. I haven't run >> into them, but I'm not watching any serials databases carefully. Also, >> if E-ISSNs are falling out of use, then we can skip those. Anyone? >> >> kc >> -- >> Karen Coyle >> kcoyle@kcoyle.net <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net> http://kcoyle.net >> m: 1-510-435-8234 >> skype: kcoylenet >> > -- Karen Coyle kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
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