- From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:33:46 +0100
- To: <public-schemabibex@w3.org>
Hi Karen, I agree there's a more precise relation for "referencing through imitation". But If 50% of the people on this group are already understanding "cite" in a broader range, then it sounds like a lost battle, really. Is there really an effective way we could refrain schema.org implementers to understand a notion as intuitive in a formalized/constrained way? The best way I can think of is to provide a property for "referencing through imitation" and to make this property a sibling of the "cite" one under a more general "reference" property. Making the alternative visible is imho the only way to encourage 'appropriate' usage. But even then I'm really skeptical. Probably many would regard the distinction between the two sub-properties to be too specific, and would directly use the the "reference" one. Antoine > This may be a different meaning of "to cite." Cite is generally defined as: > "Quote (a passage, book, or author) as evidence for or justification of an argument or statement, esp. in a scholarly work." > > Citation is an actual reference naming the work and giving credit. I'm pretty sure that there is another term for the referencing, through imitation, of a work in a non-textual creative work (although it isn't coming to me immediately). I would suggest keeping these separate, if for no other reason that they will support different applications. > > kc > > On 2/13/13 5:24 AM, Svensson, Lars wrote: >> Ed, all, >> >>> I think you could probably push [the citation property] even further up to Article, and also >>> adding it to Book. Unfortunately, I suspect it doesn't belong in >>> CreativeWork, since paintings, diets and software don't typically cite >>> things. But maybe I'm not squinting correctly :-) >> >> Well, at least paintings do. Picasso's "Massacre in Korea" cites Goya's "The Third of May 1808" [1], and Magrittes "Perspective II. Manet's Balcony" [2] cites Monet's "The Balcony" [3] which in turn cites Goya's "Majas on a Balcony" [4]. So perhaps it does make sense to push citation up to CreativeWork, at least for paintings. I do not know about diets and software, though... >> >> [1] Cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_in_Korea >> [2] http://www.mskgent.be/en/collection/1920-abstract-art-and-surrealism/rene-magritte-perspectivemanetsbalcony >> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Balcony_%28painting%29 >> [4] http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections/search-the-collections/110000990 >> >> All the best, >> >> Lars >> >> ***Lesen. Hören. Wissen. Deutsche Nationalbibliothek*** >> ***Reading. Listening. Understanding. German National Library*** >> >
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