Re: [Edison-wp2] Format for exchanging data about data science courses and programs

Dear Tomasz,

I would recommend to have the “EDISON Discussion Document” in a form which
is it easy to comment and contribute collaboratively i.e. google doc

Very happy to read your review and comparison of existing standards
describing course information. I found your table useful. Still I think you
are discarding schema.org too early and there are many benefits you are not
considering. Happy to talk about this next week Friday.

Most of the missing properties you highlighted are being considered for the
new course schema.org type. The Course schema community group
<https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/> is doing a great job
defining the scope and providing good examples and use cases
<https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Main_Page>. You
might want to have a look to the properties considered in early proposals [1
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/12YWjLzZC8FiTiOwSAETRIEozeqZdn6O8a4fgqK4t5Ss/edit?usp=sharing>
,2 <http://course.schema-course-extend-rjwprop.appspot.com/Course>].

In BioSchemas we have similar goals and went through a similar process
focusing on life science related information (events, courses, training
materials, ...). We decided to rely on the schema.org data model which is
based on community agreements and it is supported by the main search
engines.

We also found missing properties we think are useful. We will justify why
these properties are important and we will try to bring them forward into
existing schema.org types. Even if these new properties are not yet
approved by schema.org we can and we are using them.

For us the data model it is one component of the standard. For us it is
also important to identify properties that would require a controlled
vocabulary and properties which we think are key for the description of one
type. This is not the objective of schema.org so for this purpose we
created life sciences specifications on top of schema.org types which
includes this information as well as examples. ie. events
<https://drive.google.com/open?id=12O8gsOuH2qHKpis6vTHxXExraNH5XZEnoilwNgWWgaQ>,
training materials
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HG2fEjCoDUE4tn1XZ_ZIeWLEFXnI3YtS_FRIIFIbv-s/edit>,
....

We made few preliminary analysis of how our organisations currently expose
this information. ie. training materials
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cQ6mDbsG_cMX2EDAN8xH6-9yMRba8-rErlPeP8HTs8A/edit>,
events
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RE2JBaFz_i1uo_nRA7swDBNZG5BodmcbXo5V_jScsTo/edit#gid=0>,
.... This helped us to get some of the feedback you are looking for. You
would think to do the same analysis across EDISON course providers.

For data exchange purposes schema.org can be nicely presented in JSON-LD
and I am confident it should not be a problem to transform it into
iCalendar if this is the format you want to support for integration.

Talk to you next Friday.

Regards,
Rafael

On 3 March 2016 at 14:04, Tomasz Wiktorski <tomasz.wiktorski@uis.no> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Please find new version of document attached. If I receive your comment by
> Monday, March 7th, I will try to integrate them before Friday.
>
> I will send discussion agenda on Tuesday, if you have any specific point,
> please let me know by Monday.
>
> When you update the document, please do not change beginning of the file
> name, just append your name or of your organization.
>
> Thank you,
> Tomasz.
>
> On 01 Mar 2016, at 11:35, Tomasz Wiktorski <tomasz.wiktorski@uis.no>
> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> The date the fits most of us seems to be Fri 3/11/16 1:30 PM – 2:30 PM. I
> will send a calendar invite separately. Connection details will come later.
>
> As promised I will send updated proposal this week.
>
> Thank you,
> Tomasz.
>
>
> On 23 Feb 2016, at 16:05, Tomasz Wiktorski <tomasz.wiktorski@uis.no>
> wrote:
>
> To all new members in the list,
>
> Please go to: http://doodle.com/poll/drkgktp8bi6qciu4 and indicate your
> availability.
>
> I will circulate a new draft about data exchange ca. one week before the
> meeting.
>
> Thank you,
> Tomasz.
>
> On 23 Feb 2016, at 15:52, Simon CODATA <simon@codata.org> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Further to this, I would like to add Hugh Shanahan and Andrew Harrison to
> this list.  I work with Hugh and Harry on the CODATA-RDA Research Data
> Summer Schools initiative
> http://www.codata.org/working-groups/research-data-science-summer-schools
> and http://indico.ictp.it/event/7658/ - we are working with EDISON in a
> number of ways, including a workshop at IDCC 2016 this week on curriculum
> development and accreditation.  The description of learning materials in
> terms of content, learning outcomes, skills and competences is highly
> relevant to that work and the workshop later this week.
>
> For info here is the workshop info and I have attached the latest version
> of the workshop programme for interest:
> http://www.dcc.ac.uk/events/idcc16/workshops#Workshop%207
>
> Harry, Hugh: the poll for the call is:
> http://doodle.com/poll/drkgktp8bi6qciu4
>
> I have also attached the latest version of the draft document on ‘course
> description’ for (inter alia) online materials / OERs etc.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Simon.
> ___________________________
>
> Call for Session Proposals, SciDataCon 2016, Deadline 7 March 2016:
> http://www.scidatacon.org/2016/
>
> Data Science Journal, Call for Papers: Advances in Data Modelling
> and Knowledge Representation for Research Data, deadline 31 March 2016:
> http://datascience.codata.org/
>
> Applications are now invited for the CODATA-RDA School of Research Data
> Science, hosted at the International Centre of Theoretical Physics, 1-12
> August 2016: http://indico.ictp.it/event/7658/
>
> For further news from the CODATA community, please consider joining the
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>
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>
> On 23 Feb 2016, at 15:10, Simon CODATA <simon@codata.org> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thanks for this.
>
> I have limited availability over this period because of the RDA Plenary
> and then a meeting with IDRC in Ottawa. I'd be very grateful if timezone
> support could be activated for any future polls.
>
> Thanks and best wishes,
>
> Simon.
> ___________________________
>
> Call for Session Proposals, SciDataCon 2016, Deadline 7 March 2016:
> http://www.scidatacon.org/2016/
>
> Data Science Journal, Call for Papers: Advances in Data Modelling
> and Knowledge Representation for Research Data, deadline 31 March 2016:
> http://datascience.codata.org/
>
> Applications are now invited for the CODATA-RDA School of Research Data
> Science, hosted at the International Centre of Theoretical Physics, 1-12
> August 2016: http://indico.ictp.it/event/7658/
>
> For further news from the CODATA community, please consider joining the
> CODATA International list at
> http://lists.codata.org/mailman/listinfo/codata-international_lists.codata.org
> ___________________________
> Dr Simon Hodson | Executive Director CODATA | http://www.codata.org
>
> E-Mail: simon@codata.org | Twitter: @simonhodson99 | Skype: simonhodson99
> Blog: http://www.codata.org/blog
> Diary: http://bit.ly/simonhodson99-calendar
> Tel (Office): +33 1 45 25 04 96 | Tel (Cell): +33 6 86 30 42 59
>
> CODATA (ICSU Committee on Data for Science and Technology), 5 rue Auguste
> Vacquerie, 75016 Paris, FRANCE
>
> On 23 Feb 2016, at 14:59, Maarten Hoogerwerf <
> maarten.hoogerwerf@dans.knaw.nl> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Please include my colleague Rene van Horik (rene.van.horik@dans.knaw) in
> your emails about EDISON / training activities. He is involved in training
> activities by DANS / EUDAT, and already attended earlier meetings of
> EDISON. Last meeting I attended on his behalf.
>
> (I have forwarded the recent emails to him)
>
> Kind regards,
> Maarten Hoogerwerf
>
>
> On 23 Feb 2016, at 13:51, allegra.via <allegra.via@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Tomasz,
> Just for your information, Mon 7 and Tue 8 most of ELIXIR's people will
> attend the ELIXIR All Hands in Barcelona...
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Allegra
>
>
> On 23 Feb 2016, at 13:41, Tomasz Wiktorski <tomasz.wiktorski@uis.no>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> I have now extended the poll with several more days after RDA in Tokyo.
>
> The link didn’t change: http://doodle.com/poll/drkgktp8bi6qciu4
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz.
>
> On 23 Feb 2016, at 13:40, Tomasz Wiktorski <tomasz.wiktorski@uis.no>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> I have not extended the poll with several more days after RDA in Tokyo.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz.
>
> On 23 Feb 2016, at 13:18, Wittenburg, Peter <Peter.Wittenburg@mpi.nl>
> wrote:
>
> Hallo Tomasz,
> the first March week is bad for us, since we are in Tokyo at the RDA
> plenary and will have full dayss.
>
> Peter
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
> *Von:* Tomasz Wiktorski [mailto:tomasz.wiktorski@uis.no
> <tomasz.wiktorski@uis.no>]
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 23. Februar 2016 11:59
> *Cc:* Wittenburg, Peter; Holger Brocks; Belloum, A.S.Z.;
> execdir@codata.org; Simon CODATA; maarten.hoogerwerf@dans.knaw.nl;
> edison-wp2@list.uva.nl; kathrin.beck@mpcdf.mpg.de; Herman Stehouwer (
> Herman.Stehouwer@mpcdf.mpg.de); gr231@cam.ac.uk; Aleksandra Nenadic;
> Rafael C. Jimenez; allegra.via; Rita Hendricusdottir
> *Betreff:* [Edison-wp2] Format for exchanging data about data science
> courses and programs
>
> Dear All,
>
> Please indicate your availability for a discussion on the topic using the
> link below:
>
> http://doodle.com/poll/drkgktp8bi6qciu4
>
> Thank you,
> Tomasz.
>
>
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>
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>
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