Re: Proposal: starting document for what we cover.

Phil, one question regarding the scope and definition. There has been
discussion of the notion of program/course of study (variously named...even
called simply course). The scope can be inferred to include description of
programs of study from: (1) the definition, "An educational course is
defined as a sequence of events and/or creative works which aims to build
knowledge, competency and ability of learners" and (2)  Use Case #8 (set of
courses); and (3) from several of the examples (physics at U of Bristol)
and the program of study in Dental Assisting (and associated course).

Personally, I'd like to see the scope inclusion of both course and
program/course of study made explicit as opposed to being inferred, and, as
a result, subject to speculation and debate.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 4:36 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk> wrote:

>
> OK, thanks for the feedback. No one said that they objected to using the
> outline use cases as a starting point for discussion, so that is what we
> will do.
>
> I hope we can deal with most of the use cases as separate issues, with a
> short discussion thread about each one leading to a worked example of how
> the proposal would deal with it. I'll start a tracking issue in Github
> which mirrors these use cases and some of the bigger picture issues (e.g.
> is a course a creative work or an intangible, do we need Course and
> CourseOffering as separate types) to keep a liaison point with the main
> schema.org activity. I also want to check that there is nothing missing,
> and that the basic scope is agreed. SO:
>
> *Question: *looking at the use cases, scope description and definition of
> an educational course, does anyone want to suggest any changes, additions,
> deletions...
>
> Scope and definition are here:
> https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Main_Page
> Outline use cases here:
> https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Outline_use_cases
>
> I have "retired" the google doc: you can view but not edit it, and there
> is link pointing people from there to the wiki.
>
> Phil
>
> On 29/01/16 09:53, Richard Wallis wrote:
>
> +1 for the W3C Wiki.
>
> Not only will it help discussion and examples, but it can become an easily
> discovered source of practice and background that can remain well after any
> extension(s) are adopted.
>
> ~Richard.
>
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> On 29 January 2016 at 09:49, Miquel Centelles <mcentellesv@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'd prefer the W3C group wiki.
>>
>> Miquel Centelles
>>
>> 2016-01-28 15:05 GMT+01:00 Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk>:
>>
>>> Hello all
>>> In our kick-off meeting Dan proposed that we use the Schema for Courses [
>>> <https://goo.gl/DnTTsb>https://goo.gl/DnTTsb] document with use case
>>> sketches to identify what we wanted the schema course extension to cover.
>>>
>>> I offered to simplify this a little and put it on the Community Group
>>> wiki, which I have done, see:
>>> https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Outline_use_cases
>>>
>>> The idea is that these outline use cases would describe what we want the
>>> proposal to cover. We would be able to provide an example, based (ideally)
>>> on data from a real website, of how the proposal provided markup for the
>>> information required for that use case.
>>>
>>> *Question:* does anyone object to this approach?  If so please let us
>>> know in the next few days.
>>>
>>> If no one objects to the overall approach, we might want to discuss some
>>> use cases (including suggesting additions) in more detail. I think for most
>>> of them it should be pretty straightforward to show how current proposals
>>> meet them.
>>>
>>> *Question:* We have a choice between W3C group wiki and google docs for
>>> working docs. I don't want to have a document live on both. Which do you
>>> prefer?
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
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