Re: DID considerations

On 10/27/21 6:42 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
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> On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 01:59, Timothy Holborn 
> <timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote:
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>     On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 00:28, Melvin Carvalho
>     <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
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>         On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 06:30, Timothy Holborn
>         <timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote:
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>             Heya,
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>             Long time ago, work was being done mostly via RWW, that
>             considered HTTPa & an array of other ecosystem
>             considerations.
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>             Since then DID work has developed.
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>             There's an objection going on ATM.
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>         AFAIK, there's an objection from Mozilla / Tantek.  Then again
>         Tantek objected to Solid being part of the SWWG too.  I get
>         the impression that he really dislikes Linked Data, but I dont
>         fully understand why
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>         See:
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>         https://www.evernym.com/blog/w3c-vision-of-decentralization/
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>         Not been following it closely, but I'm sure DID will get
>         through the w3c process.  Just politics at play
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>     Per the lists: Formal objections raised by Apple & Google also.
>      (not sure about Tantek?)
>     https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-did-wg/
>     apparently
>     https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/ethical-web-principles/
>     related issues were raised.  looks like that started to evolve
>     around the time i mocked-up some of
>     https://github.com/webcivics/ontologies whereby the delivery of
>     https://github.com/WebCivics/ontologies/blob/master/humanrights.owl
>     into production should probably live (imo) on DID:UN or
>     similar.(sadly no one appears to have advanced these works, if i
>     am mistaken - please let me know the link to the ontology online)
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>     Vaccine Passports seemingly started in California
>     https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billCompareClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB2004&showamends=false
>     <https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billCompareClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB2004&showamends=false>
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>     and many are now built using this technology
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>     https://www.ibm.com/watson/health/resources/digital-health-pass-blockchain-explained/
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>     https://www.iata.org/en/iata-repository/pressroom/presentations/travel-pass/
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>     https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/worlds-airports-and-leading-airlines-join-commontrust-network-and-begin-roll-out-of-commonpass-in-december-in-support-of-safer-border-reopening-301179752.html
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>     https://trustoverip.org/get-involved/good-health-pass-implementation/
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>     Microsoft (which often provides infrastructure for governments) is
>     also deploying a version of it; but afaik, its using JSON not
>     JSON-LD.
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>     https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/verifiable-credentials/decentralized-identifier-overview
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>     SO, there may be a future DID:MSFT Web, that isn't interoperable
>     with the broader web.
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>     There's widespread reports (and 'common knowledge') of persons
>     being excluded from society based upon the status of their
>     'vaccine passport'.
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>     So, ‘the web’ (‘internet’) has become a mandatorily required
>     appendage for socio-economic participation as is now consequential
>     to the global commercialisation of ‘vaccine passports’. Digital
>     Identity infrastructure is now increasingly vital for any human
>     being who seeks to have agency.
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>     There are different meanings different groups use when they speak
>     about ‘identity’ or ‘digital identity’.Some definitions seem to
>     mean 'property'.
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>     having been granted some assistance to get a better look into the
>     situation (with thanks); my considerations are that there's an
>     ethics / sustainability - impact on humanity problem (not new).
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>     W3C has traditionally not had scope like other groups, for example:
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_Society_on_Social_Implications_of_Technology
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>     DID Methods are presently 'platform' or 'platform company' centric.
>     https://w3c.github.io/did-spec-registries/#did-methods
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>     This may result in different 'webs' forming where platform
>     providers have a vested interest in making them not work with
>     other online resources. A means to address that problem may be to
>     change the URI DID Method Construct (and governance framework) to
>     support societal groups.
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>     in effect -Change the DID methods to support the notations based
>     on legal stewards of the methods (and underlying content on
>     whatever DLT technology employed, including means to migrate to
>     another).
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>     - DID:UN, DID:WHO, DID:EU, DID:NL, DID:UK, DID:ITU, DID:W3C
>     etc.
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> Re: different "webs" that is already the case.  The idea of web 
> architecture is that all the URI schemes can interact with one another 
> via hyperlinks forming a multi protocol web
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_URI_schemes
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> Two of biggest are http: and file: so that's good if you want a 
> network effect, others are likely more niche
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> DID is just a set of schemes, and sub schemes with a common JSON 
> format and some agreed common structure, and set of functions
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> It would be interesting to see if that can lead to a standardized way 
> to write to the web, that is something more than HTTP POST, because 
> that's something of a black box
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> One reason is that, standardized ways to write to the web quickly 
> become Turing Complete and in turn can lead to an web operating system
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> In some sense, we're still a long way from standardizing that (a web 
> OS).  In other ways, it's happening in lots of places simultaneously 
> with different groups


Here's my understanding:

WebID -- an HTTP URI scheme based Identifier for a Person or Agent that 
resolves to a Profile Document (a Credentials Store).

WebID+TLS -- an authentication protocol in the form of a TLS-handshake 
extension that adds a Profile Document lookup facilitated by a WebID 
incorporated into an X.509 Certificate via its Subject Alternative Name 
(SAN) slot.

DiD or DID -- a Resolvable URI scheme (i.e., HTTP and others) based 
Identifier for a Person or Agent that resolves to a Profile Document.

DiD or DID Methods -- various methods for authenticating credentials in 
a Profile Document.


The W3C specs seeks to formalize the nature of credentials and how they 
are authenticated.


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