- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 13:13:16 -0400
- To: public-rww@w3.org
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On 10/27/21 6:42 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
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> On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 01:59, Timothy Holborn
> <timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 00:28, Melvin Carvalho
> <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 06:30, Timothy Holborn
> <timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Heya,
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> Long time ago, work was being done mostly via RWW, that
> considered HTTPa & an array of other ecosystem
> considerations.
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> Since then DID work has developed.
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> There's an objection going on ATM.
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> AFAIK, there's an objection from Mozilla / Tantek. Then again
> Tantek objected to Solid being part of the SWWG too. I get
> the impression that he really dislikes Linked Data, but I dont
> fully understand why
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> See:
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> https://www.evernym.com/blog/w3c-vision-of-decentralization/
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> Not been following it closely, but I'm sure DID will get
> through the w3c process. Just politics at play
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> Per the lists: Formal objections raised by Apple & Google also.
> (not sure about Tantek?)
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-did-wg/
> apparently
> https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/ethical-web-principles/
> related issues were raised. looks like that started to evolve
> around the time i mocked-up some of
> https://github.com/webcivics/ontologies whereby the delivery of
> https://github.com/WebCivics/ontologies/blob/master/humanrights.owl
> into production should probably live (imo) on DID:UN or
> similar.(sadly no one appears to have advanced these works, if i
> am mistaken - please let me know the link to the ontology online)
>
> Vaccine Passports seemingly started in California
> https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billCompareClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB2004&showamends=false
> <https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billCompareClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB2004&showamends=false>
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> and many are now built using this technology
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> https://www.ibm.com/watson/health/resources/digital-health-pass-blockchain-explained/
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> https://www.iata.org/en/iata-repository/pressroom/presentations/travel-pass/
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> https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/worlds-airports-and-leading-airlines-join-commontrust-network-and-begin-roll-out-of-commonpass-in-december-in-support-of-safer-border-reopening-301179752.html
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> https://trustoverip.org/get-involved/good-health-pass-implementation/
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> Microsoft (which often provides infrastructure for governments) is
> also deploying a version of it; but afaik, its using JSON not
> JSON-LD.
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> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/verifiable-credentials/decentralized-identifier-overview
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> SO, there may be a future DID:MSFT Web, that isn't interoperable
> with the broader web.
>
> There's widespread reports (and 'common knowledge') of persons
> being excluded from society based upon the status of their
> 'vaccine passport'.
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> So, ‘the web’ (‘internet’) has become a mandatorily required
> appendage for socio-economic participation as is now consequential
> to the global commercialisation of ‘vaccine passports’. Digital
> Identity infrastructure is now increasingly vital for any human
> being who seeks to have agency.
>
> There are different meanings different groups use when they speak
> about ‘identity’ or ‘digital identity’.Some definitions seem to
> mean 'property'.
>
> having been granted some assistance to get a better look into the
> situation (with thanks); my considerations are that there's an
> ethics / sustainability - impact on humanity problem (not new).
>
> W3C has traditionally not had scope like other groups, for example:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_Society_on_Social_Implications_of_Technology
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> DID Methods are presently 'platform' or 'platform company' centric.
> https://w3c.github.io/did-spec-registries/#did-methods
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> This may result in different 'webs' forming where platform
> providers have a vested interest in making them not work with
> other online resources. A means to address that problem may be to
> change the URI DID Method Construct (and governance framework) to
> support societal groups.
>
> in effect -Change the DID methods to support the notations based
> on legal stewards of the methods (and underlying content on
> whatever DLT technology employed, including means to migrate to
> another).
>
> - DID:UN, DID:WHO, DID:EU, DID:NL, DID:UK, DID:ITU, DID:W3C
> etc.
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> Re: different "webs" that is already the case. The idea of web
> architecture is that all the URI schemes can interact with one another
> via hyperlinks forming a multi protocol web
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_URI_schemes
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> Two of biggest are http: and file: so that's good if you want a
> network effect, others are likely more niche
>
> DID is just a set of schemes, and sub schemes with a common JSON
> format and some agreed common structure, and set of functions
>
> It would be interesting to see if that can lead to a standardized way
> to write to the web, that is something more than HTTP POST, because
> that's something of a black box
>
> One reason is that, standardized ways to write to the web quickly
> become Turing Complete and in turn can lead to an web operating system
>
> In some sense, we're still a long way from standardizing that (a web
> OS). In other ways, it's happening in lots of places simultaneously
> with different groups
Here's my understanding:
WebID -- an HTTP URI scheme based Identifier for a Person or Agent that
resolves to a Profile Document (a Credentials Store).
WebID+TLS -- an authentication protocol in the form of a TLS-handshake
extension that adds a Profile Document lookup facilitated by a WebID
incorporated into an X.509 Certificate via its Subject Alternative Name
(SAN) slot.
DiD or DID -- a Resolvable URI scheme (i.e., HTTP and others) based
Identifier for a Person or Agent that resolves to a Profile Document.
DiD or DID Methods -- various methods for authenticating credentials in
a Profile Document.
The W3C specs seeks to formalize the nature of credentials and how they
are authenticated.
--
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