Re: DID considerations

On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 at 00:28, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
wrote:

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> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 06:30, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> Heya,
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>> Long time ago, work was being done mostly via RWW, that considered HTTPa
>> & an array of other ecosystem considerations.
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>> Since then DID work has developed.
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>> There's an objection going on ATM.
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> AFAIK, there's an objection from Mozilla / Tantek.  Then again Tantek
> objected to Solid being part of the SWWG too.  I get the impression that he
> really dislikes Linked Data, but I dont fully understand why
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> See:
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> https://www.evernym.com/blog/w3c-vision-of-decentralization/
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> Not been following it closely, but I'm sure DID will get through the w3c
> process.  Just politics at play
>

Per the lists: Formal objections raised by Apple & Google also.  (not sure
about Tantek?)
 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-did-wg/
apparently
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/ethical-web-principles/
related issues were raised.  looks like that started to evolve around the
time i mocked-up some of https://github.com/webcivics/ontologies whereby
the delivery of
https://github.com/WebCivics/ontologies/blob/master/humanrights.owl into
production should probably live (imo) on DID:UN or similar. (sadly no one
appears to have advanced these works, if i am mistaken - please let me know
the link to the ontology online)

Vaccine Passports seemingly started in California

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billCompareClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB2004&showamends=false

and many are now built using this technology

https://www.ibm.com/watson/health/resources/digital-health-pass-blockchain-explained/


 https://www.iata.org/en/iata-repository/pressroom/presentations/travel-pass/


https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/worlds-airports-and-leading-airlines-join-commontrust-network-and-begin-roll-out-of-commonpass-in-december-in-support-of-safer-border-reopening-301179752.html
<https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/worlds-airports-and-leading-airlines-join-commontrust-network-and-begin-roll-out-of-commonpass-in-december-in-support-of-safer-border-reopening-301179752.html>
https://trustoverip.org/get-involved/good-health-pass-implementation/

Microsoft (which often provides infrastructure for governments) is also
deploying a version of it; but afaik, its using JSON not JSON-LD.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/verifiable-credentials/decentralized-identifier-overview


SO, there may be a future DID:MSFT Web, that isn't interoperable with the
broader web.

There's widespread reports (and 'common knowledge') of persons being
excluded from society based upon the status of their 'vaccine passport'.

So, ‘the web’ (‘internet’) has become a mandatorily required appendage for
socio-economic participation as is now consequential to the global
commercialisation of ‘vaccine passports’. Digital Identity infrastructure
is now increasingly vital for any human being who seeks to have agency.

There are different meanings different groups use when they speak about
‘identity’ or ‘digital identity’. Some definitions seem to mean 'property'.

having been granted some assistance to get a better look into the situation
(with thanks); my considerations are that there's an ethics /
sustainability - impact on humanity problem (not new).

W3C has traditionally not had scope like other groups, for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_Society_on_Social_Implications_of_Technology

DID Methods are presently 'platform' or 'platform company' centric.
https://w3c.github.io/did-spec-registries/#did-methods

This may result in different 'webs' forming where platform providers have a
vested interest in making them not work with other online resources. A
means to address that problem may be to change the URI DID Method Construct
(and governance framework) to support societal groups.

in effect -Change the DID methods to support the notations based on legal
stewards of the methods (and underlying content on whatever DLT technology
employed, including means to migrate to another).

- DID:UN, DID:WHO, DID:EU, DID:NL, DID:UK, DID:ITU, DID:W3C
etc.

If W3C is not the appropriate venue to address the social impacts (and
indeed also the governance structures for a web, that may not require ICANN
domains, etc.) then there is a mechanism to relicense:
https://www.w3.org/2014/12/relicense.html

Yet, if that were to occur, it should come with requirements and continuing
support for the very important role of W3C.  Therein, part of the
consideration is that this model would in-effect require the DID:METHOD
platforms (regardless of underlying technology used) to use linked-data so
that they're interoperable with other DID:METHODs (content sources) which
would therefore require (amongst other things) a Mandate to use of Linked
Data; semweb ecosystem components including updates to specs (W3C).

Finally; my other suggestion is to Figure out what’s in DID: Network 0.
There’s an opportunity to define sustainability related ontology that
should be developed (i.e.: DID:UN, DID:ISO, etc.); yet, shouldn’t be ‘set
aside’.


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>> I working on a document that intends to be illustrative / positive, with
>> a particular series of views expressed.  It's still draft, but here's the
>> link [1].
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>> The suggestions I've been seeking to make as best as possible, in-turn
>> seek to extend upon the underlying ecosystem works that once had RWW at the
>> heart of it.
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> This group is about reading and writing on the web.  Obviously writing
> involves some sort of permissions, which leads to some sort of identity,
> but the group itself is not about identity
>

DID Methods involve the use of Private Keys (or other AUTH instruments)
that in-turn support read/write/append functions for decentralised
web-resources / content.


> At this point its quite nebulous, and unclear what your concrete /
> specific goal is
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> Do you actually have some concrete ideas about reading.  You mentioned an
> RWW under apache.  That may be a good system, if you want to work on it
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> I'd encourage you to narrow scope and be specific
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My W3C work has been dedicated to supporting the growth of  patent-pool
protected free, open & standards that are required to support freedom of
thought, rule of law and other values of instrumental importance for
humanity.

For more information see:
https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/

The only reason why that work needs to occur in W3C is as required to
obtain patent-pool licensing for techniques used by humanity, as is
required for inter-national world-order and peaceful development unto law.
I have not been sponsored by a corporation nor have I retained a
governmental job; as either circumstance would likely have had an impact on
my ability to seek to foster future technology infrastructure needed for
the betterment (support and protection) of persons, particularly with
respect to vulnerable persons.

I believe that the vast majority of requirements to achieve that goal, are
near done; and the future growth is better able to be grown via traditional
corporate environments with the infrastructure (support and protections)
that provides.  As such, with this change of circumstance; my comments here
are intended to provide support for the above noted goals.
Therein & Nonetheless; i see potential for DID works to become instrumental
for the future of a next generation 'web' (Web 3.0, etc.).

So - FYI - there's my thoughts on how to make a solution that's not about
DID:Google or DID:Apple (or DID:Akamai) whether it be from a wallet
perspective, or the growth of tooling plumbed into app stores.

Cheers,

Timothy Holborn.

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>> Fwiw also: There's alot of conversation happening in the blue sky
>> community[2] discord group (#Identity).
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> I've spoken to some bluesky folks.  They are reviewing different systems
> and doing a comparative analysis, before coming up with their own
> recommendations.  Seems a sensible approach
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>> Once I finish drafting the doc, I'll publish it somewhere. Considerations
>> are for the "betterment of Humanity", etc.
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>> Fwiw, the "Holborn crest" links to a place that's been around since
>> londinium.
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>> I'm not going to be discriminating against unvaccinated persons; and I
>> will continue to support works to improve support of rule of law.
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>> IMO; I'd the did ethical issues are sorted out, there's enormous
>> potential for a next generation "web" (or internet?), But, imo, there's
>> alot of work that still needs to be done.
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>> Cheers,
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>> Timothy Holborn.
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>> [1]
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t8xkqlPew87xBzNn-Bj2lPHfGUHh4_VKbJE0YT976xQ/edit#
>> [2] https://bluesky-community.net/
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