Re: Discord

Also,

We probably shouldn't promote restrictions on thought; or ways people can
communicate...

There's 7.8Bn or so people on this planet...

I think, our works, try to support all of them.

Not just a handful within it...

TCH.

On Sat, 22 May 2021, 1:03 am Timothy Holborn, <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 at 00:47, Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> wrote:
>
>> Quoting Timothy Holborn (2021-05-21 16:18:13)
>> > Whilst i'm not suggesting this is an 'official channel' or whatever, i
>> took
>> > some initiative and started: a RWW Discord Channel[1].
>> >
>> > There is an old slack group that i'm aware of, but haven't logged into
>> for
>> > a long time; and, there's also IRC and other related resources...  But i
>> > thought, discord - is fairly awesome...
>> >
>> > so,  i'll get your notifications if you join; and melvin (as chair) can
>> > help figure out who be deemed 'admin' (and related procedural stuff, as
>> to
>> > 'practice as we preach' or intend to) should it be found to have
>> usefulness
>> > as an idea...
>>
>> Discord is a walled garden.  Free software, yes, but not federated data.
>>
>> I will therefore *not* participate on Discord - in case that matters.
>>
>> Not quite the same as discord, I know, but if there is a need for a chat
>> system where messages are tracked as threads and are searchable, then I
>> can recommend Matrix for that.
>>
>
> I'm fine with matrix...  Although, i note;  i've done some work defending
> the rights of women & children (in particular) which has made me a target
> via online environments for those involved in forms of abuse; that can't
> really be spoken about or illustrated publicly online.  not in a way that's
> compliant with 'dignity enhancing' considerations...   So, its kinda
> important 'good' is able to be protected; rather than 'bad actors' who are
> far better at that sort of profession, than those, who only end-up learning
> about it whilst doing KYC/AML related works, that threaten those who don't
> want their business models to be threatened and/or exposed...
>
> if that makes sense...
>
> lists as a medium, have particular qualities; i think 'endification' of
> 'who is talking' is important for these sorts of things / works (of global
> significance, etc.); i think therein also, big disputes should be sorted
> out by courts of law (not perverted) (notwithstanding the desire to never
> allow a situation to require such a form of formal remedy / remediation);
> and, that overall, anonymity is BS.
>
> An earlier suggestion i made was to build an app that used beakerbrowser;
> others illustrated have included the IRC channel & of course, the old Slack
> channel (but i think, that'll cost money to keep the history of - so, not
> so good).
>
> I refuse to use Gitter.  It allows people to modify the history and
> distort reality in ways that, i don't think are honourable.
>
> Another potential option is to boot a https://github.com/zulip/zulip
> server - and/or create a scalable environment (reference platform)? but i'm
> still working on the document that talks about ideas that seeks to figure
> out how to (economically) support people doing work for humanity (rather
> than a company or government) in a sustainable way; which is likely to also
> then in-turn, consider the cost of tools.
>
> So - similarly to the comments made by Jonas (but in a different way); if
> you want to exclude me - use gitter...
>
> (nonetheless, the discord thing is now running, so...  i'm not trying to
> be 'king' here,. not at all)...
>
> Timothy Holborn.
>
>
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>>  - Jonas
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