- From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 23:47:43 +1100
- To: W3C Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>, public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>
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Hi All, A brilliant man suggests he might have time in December, yet i cannot afford to travel to see him. This is similar to the issues i have in travelling to attend other W3C related functions, etc. I find that really embarrassing to say, my family started a large pathology company in Australia, i was brought up with the hippocratic oath (hoping that simplifies 'it' sufficiently) and after some devastating experiences I've been investing into this work for years, with little regard for income, which appears to be a shared value with so many doing similar work in the area, this is a reality of the results to date. I simply felt i needed to focus on fixing some problems - which led me further into a journey, that led to you, and others, which i feel humbled by, yet, a sense of purpose and value that i am not entirely wasting my time in a manner that would mean i'd be better off doing something else... I've been banging on about this idea of 'data ownership', 'knowledge banking industries' that should be industrially augmented as to provide governance capacity to governments by way of regulation rather than operation. 'credentials' as an evolved method from 'WebID' to form means for accountability systems, connected to citizen data storage... This seems 'crazy' or 'too hard' to so many, yet I then got back from the auIGF today, to be prompted by an article that says the EU is disallowing the storage of personal information to be transported to the US [1]. In AU, a 'mandatory data retention' thing is happening, and whilst traditional 'wisdom' says, 'fight it' (which to me kinda means they recon commercial storage (eg:"choice of law California") is good enough (lets not get into equities, et.al) ;)... I doubt that's going to work, for a variety of reasons... It seems a bit like beaming free facebook[1] to Africa, calling it internet, like we don't know about 'walled garden' cable companies... *Please feel welcome to gimme my AOL Browser and tell me about the future...* A World that is developing one where the 'save' icon looks like a floppy disk, yet people forget the day where applications stored files separately to the application, by way of a floppy disk if the data exists, then at what level should an *accountable* law-enforcement capability charged with the responsibility of upholding the laws of the people, be placed, and who do you think they should be accountable to? A company who has the data for a deal? or the person who might want to take some verifiable knowledge - to a local court for the purpose of accessible utility of their rule of law... At the auIGF today, i figured the sessions were being recorded so the best thing was to meet people. so, amongst others - I found myself chatting to the man in our local police force (VicPol), who is charged with the difficult task of leading tactical intelligence for sexual crimes squad (children) hearing about the difficulties he has in legally obtaining capability to deal with issues that quite frankly - should be attended to by all those who seek to call themselves human... Capabilities and internal resources exist within many v.large companies who are capable of making and managing the necessary ideological decisions around what is 'reasonable' and what is not. why are VicPol using traditional methods? why don't they have semantic reasoning capabilities? I've immediately sent him starting-point info he could leverage to build a capability, such as a basic graph UI example [3], info about Virtuoso[4] and semantic analysis [5] yet, i also understand the way in which that very important purpose of technology utility may be re-purposed; and whilst that issue underscored by experience of frustration, today, at the auIGF. Underlying that worry - was the knowledge that those minds in which i work with - have the intellectual capability to seriously *deal* the types of issues this man, working for vicpol, is empowered by pen, paper, a bloody telephone and a web-browser... I'm simplifying things a little, yet seriously - where are our priorities? *Does anonymity exist or are we serious when we say we're targeting only pseudo-anonymity... * the whole situation between those who want to store - saying it's for law-enforcement - and those who need it for law-enforcement - who, for whatever reason - are still using telephones, meetings and other traditional methods when well... that's not the technical capability world we live in IMHO; and that we continue to build - within our international community. I therefore believe the federal demand of data-retention - is a funding 'gift' that can be used to deploy a solution where data is principally stored for access by the citizen for which it is about. IMHO that might upset providers such as akamai, yet, isn't that their fault for not innovating? why do web-innovators need to pay for storage and transfer of user-data, when the alternative might let innovation thrive in new ways, using capabilities that are developed via standards organisations - such as W3C processes - in todays age... My mind then shifts to the utility of IPv6 rather than NAT; which in-turn dates back to early conversations about IPv6, DNS SEC, topological identifiers vs. logical ones, et.al. Credentials may provide complimentary solutions in those areas... yet, how and what will resource solutions that overall - simulate sustainability... The bigger problem for so many is of course that of the honey-pot issue - which i think is an expensive problem to solve... Discussion with a leading (local) telco individual - well, the expression on his face when he spoke of the cost of data-retention... priceless ;) I then went onto suggest they build a new innovation capability that better engages innovates (rather than simply benefiting from their works...), in-turn supporting innovation around the utility of solutions such as credentials (which in-turn will challenge the capacity for former business practices to simply benefit from others work...)... Yet the question becomes - is this sort of 'commercial behaviour', or the capacity to carry it out, valued more highly than the safety and human rights of children? is that a symbol, or a 'verified badge' for our 'advanced' society? The big question i see - is* how a report might be developed to better understand and communicate the differentiators in risk between 'traditional data retention' concepts* (no interface for Citizens / People, designed for things 'invented' by people past and present, like companies, et.al.)* vs. one that is principally designed for citizens *(and backed-up by a provider, incase they delete important data... for law-enforcement purposes, et.al...). I believe in a market-based knowledge-banking industry, where data storage is decoupled from application availability. I also believe Credentials is meritoriously designed to solve the sorts of 'approved use' scenarios SNS's depends upon, regardless of where the data is tele-housed. I hear the TPP Agreement is signed. I do wonder the implications. Yet we've got brilliant minds around the world and those engaged in exploiting children - well, we're helping those who combat that, by relegating them such primitive methods, because we can't match concepts such as LDP and Linked-Data, to existing 'choice of law california' business models... At no stage do i believe such law-enforcement capabilities should not be made accountable, i've heard stories about issues within such fields of accountability which are horrific... Yet Credentials is one solution of many that is of a lesser debate than the principle i'm highlighting... We can and should do better... the mandatory data-retention discussion of issues today were entirely polarised and IMHO, those that know enough, know the data exists anyway. IMHO the debate is about how much we can or should, devalued the concept of 'citizen' over 'agent'. AU has an opportunity where 'too much' money needs to be spent on localised data-storage. I think it's worthwhile reviewing the opportunities and seeing what can be done to showcase some talent and opportunity for the global scale, by responding to some warranted problems on a local one, in AU at least. No difference should exists between the risks of having 'mandatory data retention' with interfaces for the citizens of which the data-retention is about vs. a methodology that allows a service for 'upholding the laws of the people' in which 'the people' have little to no awareness. RDF is a means in which public health may be improved remarkably. Whilst i believe upholding the human rights of children needs to be done in context to other means to deal with false accusations, rule of law, et.al (therein accountability is essential); means for accountability exists - beyond pen, paper and telephone calls - and pursuant to our shared values... that for children... It's kinda simple really, If someone abuses a child, i hope we all may call the police and have that person made accountable by law... Limiting available verifiable knowledge; in-turn availing a child and their loved ones, their carers, of that capacity to expect accessible justice - is wrong and i hope you consider fully, the implications of the concept... tim. [1] http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/06/technology/facebook-privacy-european-union/index.html [2] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/11911539/Facebook-reaches-deal-to-beam-internet-to-Africa-from-space.html [3] http://dbpedia.exascale.info/ [4] http://www.slideshare.net/kidehen/openlink-virtuoso-management-des [5] http://www.mico-project.eu/
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