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Re: Loosely Coupled Identification and Authentication Demo -- Microsoft IdP

From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:18:07 -0400
Message-ID: <53B1638F.2070003@openlinksw.com>
To: Peter Williams <home_pw@msn.com>, "public-rww@w3.org" <public-rww@w3.org>, "public-webid@w3.org" <public-webid@w3.org>
On 6/30/14 8:22 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
> On 6/29/14 7:24 PM, Peter Williams wrote:
>> We cannot have a “more” list of 3 million icons. And I have no 
>> intention of using an American brand (like Microsoft or Google, or 
>> ...l) for anything that has the slightest value.
>> What do we do?
> Peter,
> You don't have to remember or type in a URI when accessing a protected 
> resource using the Virtualized Authentication Layer (VAL) referred to 
> in my earlier post. I've produced a screenshot from my ODS (OpenLink 
> Data Spaces) based Briefcase (our equivalent of OneDrive, Dropbox, 
> Google Drive etc..) that displays the current authenticated identity 
> associated with a user agent session [1].
> If I wanted to make a more fine-grained acl, scoped to a specific URI, 
> I would simply copy and paste that URI for use in my ACL. As for 
> users, they never need to type anything when accessing protected 
> resources, they simply click on a button.
> If you wanted to use your Microsoft URI in the SAN of an X.509 cert 
> you have two choices:
> 1. Simply generate your x.509 cert (Digital Identity Card) using YouID 
> -- take the Microsoft PdP (Profile Data Provider) route with one of 
> the following as the IdP (Identity Provider -- service that stores 
> public part of your Identification oriented Claims) OneDrive, Dropbox, 
> Google Drive etc..
> 2. Do it by hand using provider certificate generator provided by 
> relevant operating system.
> Either way, our NetID-TLS (a superset of WebID-TLS) protocol with 
> handle identity claims authentication. In short, that's what happens 
> when you click on the buttons presented by the VAL dialog.
> Links:
> [1] http://susepaste.org/35303595 -- My Identifier from Microsoft's 
> Data Space (which is comprised of millions of other user accounts for 
> every Microsoft app/service user)

Here's WebID-TLS based authentication results page based on a YouID 
generated Identity Card where the WebID is derived from interaction with 
a Microsoft Account via OAuth and the WebID-Profile document is deployed 
using Microsoft OneDrive. Net result:

1. a WebID -- scoped to Microsoft OneDrive (following successful 
interaction with Microsoft Identity Provider services)
2. an X.509 based Digital Identity Card (Cert.) .

When generating the Identity Card the user simply clicks on a button 
that triggers the handshake and profile data exchange with Microsoft's 

Note, even if the Microsoft user doesn't have an actual Digital Identity 
card, I can still make an ACL based on their Microsoft URI (e.g., 
<https://profile.live.com/cid-3a02f98c12fc49f5>) using the Microsoft 
Accounts specific authentication API. Basically, this is where the 
NetID-TLS superset of WebID-TLS comes into play.


[1] http://bit.ly/TwdZ10 -- actual WebID-TLS based authentication 
results page
[2] http://bit.ly/1sRcg70 -- YouID generated artifacts collection for my 
Microsoft Account, deployed via OneDrive and mounted to my ODS-Briefcase 
(since these storage service providers don't provide open directory 
browsing without social media contacts data related payments)
-- HTML based variant of my Digital Identity Card .


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