Re: keeping on topic -- was: Introducing Tim Bray & Noam Bernstein

On 10 July 2012 11:21, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:

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> On 10 July 2012 06:30, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:
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>> On 9 Jul 2012, at 23:01, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
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>> On 9 July 2012 22:38, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:
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>>> On 9 Jul 2012, at 22:28, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
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>>> On 9 July 2012 22:01, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:
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>>>> what's the relation to rww?
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>>> I think most apps builders are interested in authentication.
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>>> We've done a lot of work before with the OpenID, maybe some fresh blood
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>>> Are they part of this group? Or are they just people doing
>>> authentication? Not sure I understand how this is related to read write
>>> web. Or is RWW now about authentication?
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>> As soon as you have write access, unless you have security by obscurity,
>> or unless you have a completely public resource like wikipedia, you need
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>> True, but does this mean you are going to announce here every person who
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> Sorry, Henry, I'll try not to.  Dont mean to spam your inbox.
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> Just thought the OpenID + WebID is something we've done work on before.
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> The relavent project here is "Account Chooser" which provides a number of
> options to login.  I use a very similar technique, but also including
> WebID, on all my RWW apps.
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> Was really just a FYI that some well known people in the standards world
> are now working on that challenge.
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> Thanks for your feedback, I'll try to send fewer mails out in future, that
> may be considered a tangent to our core work :)
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> Of if you do, please add an explanation of why it is relevant to the
> group. A short paragraph on what the Account Chooser is, why it is
> interesting, etc... can help put things in context. Your mail sounded like
> you were saying that Tim Bray & Noam Berstein were joining this group. That
> they are joining other groups is of very little interest to this group I
> would say, as most people including me here have probably no knowledge at
> all of the politics of that group, what it means for people to join that
> group - are they just listening? are they there to write some blog post?
> are they there as figureheads to attract people? Does it really matter at
> all if they join? Perhaps that project is on its last legs and they were
> asked to give it a breath of life? - And really I don't care about the
> people joining and not jointing groups.... I am on a lot of groups, I wish
> I could follow, but don't always get time to .
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Thanks for the feedback, will definitely bear it in mind :)


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>>>> On 9 Jul 2012, at 20:33, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
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>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Eric Sachs <esachs@google.com>
>>>> Date: 9 July 2012 20:05
>>>> Subject: Introducing Tim Bray & Noam Bernstein
>>>> To: oidf-account-chooser-list <
>>>> oidf-account-chooser-list@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Cc: Tim Bray <twbray@google.com>, Noam Bernstein <noamb@google.com>
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>>>> I would like to introduce two more people from Google who will be
>>>> involved with the Account Chooser.
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>>>> Tim Bray is in our Developer Relations team, and so will be helping us
>>>> making the service more developer friendly, as well as helping evangelize
>>>> it.  Tim is already quite known in the Internet developer community (see
>>>> his wikipedia entry <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Bray> and Blog<http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/06/29/Becoming-an-Identity-guy>).
>>>>  In addition to working on Account Chooser, he will also be involved in our
>>>> other OpenID & OAuth efforts.  He is also going to be attending the
>>>> upcoming IETF (which conveniently for him is near where he lives in
>>>> Calgary).
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>>>> Noam Bernstein is a new Product Manager on my team who will be taking
>>>> on a lot of responsibility for our login system, including how it
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