Re: Foaf-browser-app

On 10/6/11 6:11 AM, Bob Ferris wrote:
> Hi Henry,
>
> On 10/4/2011 8:04 PM, Henry Story wrote:
>> While playing with the very cool Foaf-browser Android application 
>> [1], I noticed that there are a couple of things that we need to 
>> standardise to make that type of application seamless.
>>
>> As it requires having an Android phone which not everyone may have, I 
>> put together a little video of the Foaf-browser here
>>
>>     http://vimeo.com/30014844
>>
>
> This is an interesting representation of this Social Web Android 
> application.
>
> +1 re. the UX/usability remarks

This tool is a good start, but UX/usability always struggles if the 
fundamental UI/UX bottleneck of Linked Data isn't addressed. The problem 
boils down to labels for URIs across TBox and ABox. Pulling it off 
requires a Linked Data platform that's able to use reasoning to 
harmonize labels across a variety of Annotation Properties. Doing this 
has to scale (as we demonstrate with 29+ Billion triples at: 
http://lod.openlinksw.com ).

We do offer an API into our faceted browser engine that enables anyone 
leverage this functionality. Thus, I need to double check that we 
actually surface what I've described since it took some serious 
engineering to pull off this solution in the manner I just described.

Links:

1. 
http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VirtFacetBrowserInstallConfig 
-- Virtuoso's DBMS hosted Faceted Browsing Service .

Kingsley
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Bo
>
>
>> where I also go into detail in some of the things that need to be 
>> improved, as I show how it works.
>>
>> 1. SEAMLESS STARTUP
>> ===================
>>
>> In order to allow seamless startup, there has to be a way for a user 
>> once he has installed the browser to find his home page.
>>
>> We discussed this yesterday on the WebID-XG incubator group meeting 
>> with Tim.
>>
>> a. getting to the home page
>> ---------------------------
>>
>> Clearly getting to the home page of the user is going to be 
>> important. That will require him to either:
>>
>>   - know his profile url
>>   - the company he is with to have implemented something like web 
>> finger, so that one could just ask him for his email address
>>   - ..
>>
>> We seem to have a few protocols to help here. What clearly was 
>> missing was the keygen equivalent for an application like that.
>>
>> b. keygen form pointer
>> ----------------------
>>
>>   We need  some way to get the equivalent of a keygen form in rdf. 
>> Then a non html browser could know where it needs to send an html 
>> POST of a keygen like response. Any ideas how to do this?
>>
>> 2. EDITING
>> ----------
>>
>> I suppose the RW community group have some idea of what is needed to 
>> allow such a tool to become an editor.
>>
>>
>> Henry
>>
>>
>> [1] http://code.google.com/p/mssw/wiki/Screenshots
>>
>>
>> You can run it in a emulator - very slow btw, but if you don't want 
>> to buy a phone it saves money.  Here is what I learned looking at it: 
>> The running stable release of the Address Book is
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/mssw/downloads/detail?name=mssw-0.9.6-stable.apk 
>>
>>
>> The emulator can be found here:
>>
>>   http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/devices/emulator.html
>>
>> Once installed the tools/android  tool allows starts a GUI which 
>> allows one to create a virtual device. Perhaps one first has to 
>> install android 2.3.3 which is more like a phone, and create a 
>> virtual device for that. Then can launch the device. One installs the 
>> app on the virtual phone using once it is running
>>
>> ../platform-tools/adb install mssw-0.9.6-stable.apk
>>
>> (there may be a GUI way of doing that)
>>
>>
>> [2] this is true for creating WebIDs, for loving in and so on....
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