- From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:35:30 -0500
- To: Scott Hollier <scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au>
- Cc: "Joshue O'Connor - InterAccess" <josh@interaccess.ie>, public-rqtf@w3.org
Responding only to add the RQTF email archive. We should be holding this conversation on list! :) Scott Hollier writes: > To Josh and Janina > > Apologies I won???t get to catch up with you both at the meeting as I have some urgent work I need to do for a Board meeting coming up, but I did want to provide some feedback as promised from my staff on Josh???s work. > > The responses that follow are fairly short, but the are from two staff with Autism and another that has a cognitive disability so hopefully some of these reflections can be helpful. They also have a lot of technical knowledge and are well versed in WCAG. > > Reply 1: > > > > Here is my take on the AI document. > > Qualitative Assessments of AI outputs > > Can AI be trusted? Not at the moment, AI tends to make things up. > Can AI be relied upon and are AI accurate? No, again AI makes things up, and between a random person off the street vs an AI to do anything accurate, I???d pick the random person off the street. > How will that be qualitatively measured from an accessibility perspective? They give two examples, alt text generation and automated captioning, neither of which does their job well, Alt-text generation is laughably inaccurate, and automated captioning sometimes mixes up words. > > Developing AI use cases for repair > > 3.2 Alt text for images. As I said above, this is laughably inaccurate now, it???s likely that alt-text to be as good as captioning is now would take a few years. > 3.3 Automatic captioning. Again, as I said above, automated captioning mixes up words, but it???s still better than nothing, and is better than when it first started out. Though I still trust a human to do it better. > 3.4 Plain language. AI has a lot of potential for this, but an accessibility feature that does this automatically might be a few years off, you???d still need another program, like ChatGPT, to input manually, but the potential is there. > 3.5 Auto Language detection. Google chrome already does this I believe, though I don???t think I???d trust an AI over a human to translate other languages. > 3.6 Colour contrast. The Microsoft suite also already does this, when selecting a colour it has a slider to only recommend high contrast colours. > > > Reply 2: > > Here are the potential applications I mentioned earlier. > > > * Perhaps AI could be used to filter out unnecessary page content for users with cognitive disabilities (similar to reader view). A related idea could be language simplification for further clarity. > * It may be beneficial if users could customise text alternatives as it seems that preferences for length and level of detail vary greatly. Of course, alternate text written by the content author would still be important, but currently it seems the ideal level of descriptiveness etc. is a compromise between the varied preferences of users. > > > > Reply 3: > > tt, > > Here are my thoughts and feedback. > > > * Current big businesses that are developing AI software and hardware are focussing more on profits and being the ???first??? to release a product to market, and have made huge claims about what their platforms could possibly do for people with disability but have had a tendency to release hardware and software that does not do what it claims or does it very poorly (Rabbit R1, Humane Pin), and I feel despite current AI technology having the potential to be a game changer for people with disability, we are very behind on where we could be right now with a focus more on making the next flashy AI over developing it specifically for people with disability. > * I personally don???t agree with using AI to evaluate web content against the WCAG guidelines, current testing software, though robust, has a tendency to produce false positives, and I don???t trust AI to be able to improve this. It may have the potential in the future, but currently as someone with extensive experience with WCAG and auditing, the best way today to audit a website is to do it by hand. I don???t believe AI can really understand content from a user perspective, lacking that human element from testing by hand I think would be the biggest disadvantage to using AI in our testing tools. > * I can see how using AI and image processing could potentially make UX a better experience for people with disability, if there are tools that could identify screen content such as buttons and links, and enhance the ability for these tools to be used with voice control, switch control, etc, that I can see becoming a major benefit for software users with disability. A lot of software is accessible but a lot isn???t, and though I still believe the software should be accessible first without tools, if that isn???t the case, AI could absolutely fill that gap. > > > > > Dr Scott Hollier > Chief Executive Officer > [Centre for Accessibility Australia logo]<https://www.accessibility.org.au/> > Centre For Accessibility Australia Ltd. > Phone: +61 (0)430 351 909 > Email: scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au> > Address: Suite 5, Belmont Hub, 213 Wright Street, Cloverdale WA 6105 > accessibility.org.au<https://www.accessibility.org.au/> > Subscribe to our newsletter<http://eepurl.com/drA-ib> > > [X icon]<https://twitter.com/centrefora11y>[Instagram icon]<https://www.instagram.com/centreforaccessibility/> [Facebook icon] <https://www.facebook.com/centrefora11y/> [LinkedIn icon] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/centreforaccessibility/> > > CFA Australia respectfully acknowledges the Traditional Owners of Country across Australia and pay our respects to Elders past and present. > > From: Joshue O'Connor - InterAccess <josh@interaccess.ie> > Sent: Friday, 24 January 2025 8:58 PM > To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> > Cc: Scott Hollier <scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au> > Subject: Re[2]: Progressing the AI work > > I suspect we should go with remediate for now. I suppose we could make > it a $REMEDIATE value?? :) > > Lol, that???s wicked! > > -- > Joshue O???Connor > Director | InterAccess.ie > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> > To "Joshue O???Connor" <josh@interaccess.ie<mailto:josh@interaccess.ie>> > Cc "Scott Hollier" <scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au>> > Date 24/01/2025, 12:09:24 > Subject Re: Progressing the AI work > > Hi Both: > > I think we're all pretty much on the same page here! > > Agree vocabulary is very important--I believe I've raised that > previously. We want to use AI familiar vocabulary, but I think we should > use WCAG vocabulary too. > > I don't recall off hand, but I expect WCAG doesn't think in terms of > "repair" or "remediation." My preference is for the latter, but I don't > expect to find that term in WCAG because WCAG intends content publishers > get it all put together properly in the first instance. So, there's > nothing to repair/remediate/redeem. Hmmm ... > > I suspect we should go with remediate for now. I suppose we could make > it a $REMEDIATE value?? :) > > Great weekend, Scott and Josh! > Janina > > Joshue O'Connor writes: > Hi Scott > > Thatā??????s absolutely great feedback! I agree letā??????s not use the term Repair > youā??????re right it has a particular connotation. > > I think several of the points you make can be included as reality > checks for AI and accessibility. Totally valid for us to include that > in a first public working draft as concerns and Gott is in case people > reading this thing itā??????s all blue sky brave New World possibility > without any problems. > > We have no power here at the moment and had a big storm last night so > Iā??????m not gonna be doing a lot of work today but I managed to get these > emails happily > > Iā??????ll review these comments and more detail and incorporate them into my > little document and hopefully sensible way. > > Have a great weekend both > > Josh > > On 24 Jan 2025, at 08:35, Scott Hollier > <scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au>> wrote: > > ļ»æ > > To Josh > > > Thanks for this. 8 of my team have a disability and one is currently > studying towards a Masters in AI so Iā??????m seeking some feedback from > them. Itā??????s a public holiday here in Australia on Monday but should get > some good insights a few working days after that to share. > > > In terms of my own preliminary thoughts: > * Agree with the questions that need to be asked and the importance > of the structure > * The term ā?????repairā?????? for alt text and captions I donā??????t think is the > best term for this. It could be remediation, instead, but I think > the issue is that AI isnā??????t turning bad alt text to good alt text, > or bad captions to good captions which is what Iā??????d see as repair to > accessibility requirements, I think itā??????s bigger than that as AI is > creating alt text and captions from sources where it doesnā??????t exist. > Fixing a tyre with a patch to give it air again is what Iā??????d see as > repair but getting a new tyre for a car that didnā??????t have one Iā??????d > see as a solution.. I think we need to expand our vision on AI > accessibility Also WCAG doesnā??????t use repair to describe adding alt > text to an image as repairing the image so I think another heading > or way to represent this would be preferred to me. Hapy to agree to > disagree if you both feel this is still the best fit though > > In terms of trust, I think an evidence-based example is this test we > did > [1]https://www.accessibility.org.au/hands-on-android-15-ai-gemini-integ > ration-for-alternative-text-vs-iphones-voiceover/ I think this > highlights a few issues relating to the trust and reliability question > > AI integration makes it easy to do on the user side so as > with all AI I think thereā??????s a convenience vs > reliability/trustworthy/security debate here in accessibility circles. > i.e. will people use features like pulling up alt text in Gemini > because its easy and better than nothing, ignoring the trustworthiness > as a result and the dangers that represents > > * Each time AI is used it gives a different answer even if itā??????s based > on the same exact data, in this example the same image. A world for > people with disabilities where there is no certainty on what is > truth is a tricky one and in this example a blind user would have > no way of telling which answer is correct, and is it possible for > three different AI alt text to all be correct if they are all > different? AI canā??????t be at the expense of a developer putting in alt > text that is correct. Just one use case but I think the principle > applies that IA canā??????t be a replacement for best practice and itā??????d > be good to capture in this document that AI solutions may stop > develoeprs and designers from seeing a need to apply accessibility > standards like WCAG, ATAG and UAAG > * AI LLMs are inconsistent between different platforms again meaning > that the users of one ecosystem may have completely different > understanding of online content from someone else even if both > people are using the same content and some disability groups would > have no way again to tell whatā??????s right, I suspect COGA could have > some good input on this. > > Evaluation tools I think can definitely be improved by AI as Site > Improve for example acknowledge it only checks about 40% of WCAG issues > through JavaScript processes. For example, existence of captions and > audio description could easily be achieved with AI and not done by > evaluation tools now to my knowledge and requires a manual check > > ATAG super important in ensuring UI accessibility (Part A) is always > a part of any solution to use tools > > > Just about to wrap up work for the week so again these are just some > preliminary thoughts, and Iā??????ll send through some more with some > collective thoughts from my colleagues. > > > Fantastic work Josh and thanks again for the process of fleshing this > out. > > > Scot. > > > > * > > > > Dr Scott Hollier > Chief Executive Officer > > [2]<image001.png> > > Centre For Accessibility Australia Ltd. > Phone: +61 (0)430 351 909 > Email: [3]scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au> > Address: Suite 5, Belmont Hub, 213 Wright Street, Cloverdale WA 6105 > > [4]accessibility.org.au > > [5]Subscribe to our newsletter > > > [6]<image002.png> > [7] > <image003.png> > [8] > <image004.png> > [9] > <image005.png> > > > CFA Australia respectfully acknowledges the Traditional Owners of > Country across Australia and pay our respects to Elders past and > present. > > > From: Joshue O'Connor - InterAccess <josh@interaccess.ie<mailto:josh@interaccess.ie>> > Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2025 1:13 AM > To: Scott Hollier <scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au>>; Janina Sajka > <janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> > Subject: Re[2]: Progressing the AI work > > > Ok folks - here you go! > > > Comments suggestions etc welcome! > > > -- > > Joshue Oā??????Connor > > Director | InterAccess.ie > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From "Scott Hollier" <[10]scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au>> > > To "Janina Sajka" <[11]janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>>; "Joshue O'Connor - > InterAccess" <[12]josh@interaccess.ie<mailto:josh@interaccess.ie>> > > Date 22/01/2025, 13:27:36 > > Subject RE: Progressing the AI work > > > On my way too. > > > Scott. > > > > Dr Scott Hollier > > Chief Executive Officer > > > Centre For Accessibility Australia Ltd. > > Phone: +61 (0)430 351 909 > > Email: [13]scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au> > > Address: Suite 5, Belmont Hub, 213 Wright Street, Cloverdale WA 6105 > > accessibility.org.au > > Subscribe to our newsletter > > > > > CFA Australia respectfully acknowledges the Traditional Owners of > Country across Australia and pay our respects to Elders past and > present. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Janina Sajka <[14]janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> > > Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2025 9:14 PM > > To: Joshue O'Connor - InterAccess <[15]josh@interaccess.ie<mailto:josh@interaccess.ie>> > > Cc: Scott Hollier <[16]scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au>> > > Subject: Re: Progressing the AI work > > > Be there, or be square!! > > > Joshue O'Connor writes: > > Hi both, > > > Just to say. I???ll be ready at the bottom of this hour to chat if you > > are all free on the RQTF line. > > > Ta! > > > -- > > Joshue O???Connor > > Director | InterAccess.ie > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > > From "Scott Hollier" <[17]scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au>> > > To "Joshue O???Connor" <[18]josh@interaccess.ie<mailto:josh@interaccess.ie>>; "Janina Sajka" > > <[19]janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> > > Date 15/01/2025, 13:27:19 > > Subject RE: Progressing the AI work > > > > Thank you both for being so helpful with the times. I can make just > about any week on the half hour before RQTF so that's fantastic. > > > > > > Scott. > > > > > > > > > Dr Scott Hollier > > > Chief Executive Officer > > > > > > Centre For Accessibility Australia Ltd. > > > Phone: +61 (0)430 351 909 > > > Email: [20]scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au> > > > Address: Suite 5, Belmont Hub, 213 Wright Street, Cloverdale WA 6105 > > > accessibility.org.au Subscribe to our newsletter > > > > > > > > > > > > CFA Australia respectfully acknowledges the Traditional Owners of > Country across Australia and pay our respects to Elders past and > present. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Joshue O???Connor <[21]josh@interaccess.ie<mailto:josh@interaccess.ie>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2025 9:01 PM > > > To: Janina Sajka <[22]janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> > > > Cc: Scott Hollier <[23]scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au>> > > > Subject: Re: Progressing the AI work > > > > > > That???s great Janina and that might work well for Scott to depending > on his evening. Even if we get 15 or 20 minutes to catch up about the > work and we can use that as a heartbeat that works for me, it???ll keep > me honest! > > > > > > > On 15 Jan 2025, at 12:39, Janina Sajka <[24]janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > ???Done, Josh. > > > > > > > > FYI: We won't really have a full half hour because our ASL > > > > interpreters tend to join around 10 of the hour, as does Jason to > set up the meeting. > > > > But, that gives us around 20 to coordinate and that's good! > > > > > > > > Joshue O'Connor writes: > > > > > Thanks Janina - why dont we check in next week at 30 mins > > > > > before the RQTF call? > > > > > > > > > > That should work for me. Doing this would give me the kick to > > > > > get something toghether before then! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joshue O'Connor > > > > > Director / InterAccess.ie > > > > > (+353) 01 961 0059 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > > > > > From "'Janina Sajka'" <[25]janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> > > > > > To "Joshue O'Connor - InterAccess" <[26]josh@interaccess.ie<mailto:josh@interaccess.ie>> Cc > > > > > "Scott Hollier" <[27]scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au>> > > > > > Date 15/01/2025 12:11:29 PM > > > > > Subject Re: Progressing the AI work > > > > > > > > > > > Good Wednesday Scott, Josh: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm just getting here with my morning coffee and delighted to > > > > > > see this conversation. > > > > > > > > > > > > I note Scott's suggestion of using time ahead of the RQTF > > > > > > call. That would actually be good for me. I tend to be a > > > > > > morning person. I'm frequently at my desk by 5AM my time! ???? > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have no concern if we pair up separately. The point is > > > > > > progress on our doc. Anything that achieves that is cool by me! > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck at the dentist's, Josh. You remind me I've still to > > > > > > establish such a relationship here in New York! > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Janina > > > > > > > > > > > > Joshue O'Connor writes: > > > > > > > Ok, thanks Scott - I totally get it (and you had better > > > > > > > honor your promise to you family!). Maybe you are right > > > > > > > that Janina and I can sync up separately - Janina if you can > float some times we can set that up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will make some time to get a draft structure together as > > > > > > > soon as I???ve a window.It will likely be next week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Speaking of family Ruairi has a dental appointment today, > > > > > > > so I???ll be juggling a little - I???ve no real update to > > > > > > > give so I may not make the RQTF call today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Joshue O???Connor > > > > > > > Director | InterAccess.ie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > > > > > > > From "Scott Hollier" > <[28]scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au>> > > > > > > > To "Joshue O'Connor - InterAccess" <[29]josh@interaccess.ie<mailto:josh@interaccess.ie>>; > "'Janina Sajka'" > > > > > > > <[30]janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> > > > > > > > Date 15/01/2025, 10:44:51 > > > > > > > Subject RE: Progressing the AI work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Josh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for that. It???s no worries in cueing up a time > > > > > > > > between you and I as it could be at the very end of my > > > > > > > > work day but appreciate that would not be great for > > > > > > > > Janina. The challenge from my end is I already work 50+ > > > > > > > > hours a week and I???ve pledged to my family I???ll limit > > > > > > > > my after hours work to one night a week which is our > > > > > > > > Wednesday RQTF so the only other time which might work for > all of us is just before an RQTF meeting on a Wednesday if that???s a > possibility for a call. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also don???t have any objection to you and Janina > > > > > > > > catching up on a separate call either if that helps to kick > things along. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Scott Hollier > > > > > > > > Chief Executive Officer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Centre for Accessibility Australia logo > > > > > > > > <[31]https://www.accessibility.org.au/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Centre For Accessibility Australia Ltd. > > > > > > > > Phone: +61 (0)430 351 909 > > > > > > > > Email: [32]scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au> > > > > > > > > Address: Suite 5, Belmont Hub, 213 Wright Street, > > > > > > > > Cloverdale WA > > > > > > > > 6105 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > accessibility.org.au > <[33]https://www.accessibility.org.au/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subscribe to our newsletter <[34]http://eepurl.com/drA-ib> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > X icon > > > > > > > > <[35]https://twitter.com/centrefora11y> > > > > > > > > Instagram icon > > > > > > > > <[36]https://www.instagram.com/centreforaccessibility/> > > > > > > > > Facebook icon > > > > > > > > <[37]https://www.facebook.com/centrefora11y/> > > > > > > > > LinkedIn icon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[38]https://www.linkedin.com/company/centreforaccessibility/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CFA Australia respectfully acknowledges the Traditional > > > > > > > > Owners of Country across Australia and pay our respects > > > > > > > > to Elders past and present. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Joshue O'Connor - InterAccess > <[39]josh@interaccess.ie<mailto:josh@interaccess.ie>> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2025 6:07 PM > > > > > > > > To: Scott Hollier <[40]scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au>>; > 'Janina Sajka' > > > > > > > > <[41]janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Progressing the AI work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great, thanks for checking in. I need to get pen to paper > > > > > > > > more so a regular check in call on this would be helpful to > keep me going. > > > > > > > > Once every two weeks would be good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I???ve been busy with client work/billable hours - but > > > > > > > > will to get something to you next week to get us started. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you both suggest sometimes/days that would work for > you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joshue O???Connor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director | InterAccess.ie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From "Scott Hollier" > <[42]scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To "Joshue O'Connor - InterAccess" > <[43]josh@interaccess.ie<mailto:josh@interaccess.ie>>; > > > > > > > > "'Janina Sajka'" <[44]janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date 15/01/2025, 07:39:32 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject Progressing the AI work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Josh and Janina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope all is well! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Following on from RQTF last week I thought I???d touch > > > > > > > > > base to look at how best to progress it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a starting point, I thought we could return to the > > > > > > > > > discussion that Josh and I had had where Josh was going > > > > > > > > > to provide a bit of a gap analysis which we could then > > > > > > > > > work together to look at a possible restructure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh: does that still work for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given the challenges in setting up a meeting for our > > > > > > > > > time zones, I thought if it works okay for you both we > > > > > > > > > could kick this along on e-mail for now and then > > > > > > > > > coordinate a meeting when we have something developed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you both, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr Scott Hollier > > > > > > > > > Chief Executive Officer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Centre for Accessibility Australia logo > > > > > > > > > <[45]https://www.accessibility.org.au/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Centre For Accessibility Australia Ltd. > > > > > > > > > Phone: +61 (0)430 351 909 > > > > > > > > > Email: [46]scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au<mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au> > > > > > > > > > Address: Suite 5, Belmont Hub, 213 Wright Street, > > > > > > > > > Cloverdale WA > > > > > > > > > 6105 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > accessibility.org.au > > > > > > > > > <[47]https://www.accessibility.org.au/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subscribe to our newsletter > <[48]http://eepurl.com/drA-ib> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > X icon > > > > > > > > > <[49]https://twitter.com/centrefora11y> > > > > > > > > > Instagram icon > > > > > > > > > <[50]https://www.instagram.com/centreforaccessibility/> > > > > > > > > > Facebook icon > > > > > > > > > <[51]https://www.facebook.com/centrefora11y/> > > > > > > > > > LinkedIn icon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[52]https://www.linkedin.com/company/centreforaccessibility > > > > > > > > > /> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CFA Australia respectfully acknowledges the Traditional > > > > > > > > > Owners of Country across Australia and pay our respects > > > > > > > > > to Elders past and present. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka (she/her/hers) > > > > > > Accessibility Consultant [53]https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > > > > > > > > > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility > Initiative (WAI) > > > > > > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures > [54]http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > > > > > > > > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > > > > > [55]https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Janina Sajka (she/her/hers) > > > > Accessibility Consultant [56]https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > > > > > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative > (WAI) > > > > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures > [57]http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > > > > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > > > [58]https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/ > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Janina Sajka (she/her/hers) > > Accessibility Consultant [59]https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures > [60]http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > [61]https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/ > > References > > 1. https://www.accessibility.org.au/hands-on-android-15-ai-gemini-integration-for-alternative-text-vs-iphones-voiceover/ > 2. https://www.accessibility.org.au/ > 3. mailto:scott.hollier@accessibility.org.au > 4. https://www.accessibility.org.au/ > 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https://www.linkedin.com/company/centreforaccessibility > 53. https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > 54. http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > 55. https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/ > 56. https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > 57. http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > 58. https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/ > 59. https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > 60. http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > 61. https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/ > > -- > > Janina Sajka (she/her/hers) > Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > Linux Foundation Fellow > https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/ > -- Janina Sajka (she/her/hers) Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa Linux Foundation Fellow https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/
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