Re our conversations with the Media IG; 1 of 2

Just to be clear, I'm including the below for everyone's benefit. I'll
see whether we can get a redirect on the MAUR 1.0 page. That would help
avoid such questions as the one below.

Janina


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  • From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 08:50:08 -0400
  • Subject: Re: Request for meeting with APA and MEIG at TPAC
  • To: Chris Needham <chris.needham@bbc.co.uk>
  • Cc: Matthew Atkinson <matkinson@tpgi.com>, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>, Gary Katsevman <gkatsevman@brightcove.com>, APA Chairs <group-apa-chairs@w3.org>, Paul Grenier <pgrenier@gmail.com>, "Ali, Irfan" <Irfan.Ali@blackrock.com>
  • Message-ID: <ZK6hfh9FLSPwpOw/@rednote.net>
Hi Chris:

Actually, we are now following our *AUR pattern on github repositories.
Therefore, MAUR 2.0 will be developed at, and issues should be filed at:

https://github.com/w3c/maur

As MAUR 1.0 was our first document in what became a series (we like to
think due to demonstrated value), we're now updating with the *AUR
pattern.

Best,

Janina

Chris Needham writes:
> Hi Janina,
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> Thank you. I'm about to send the minutes from our meeting yesterday. We didn't talk about where to send input, should I ask people to raise issues in the MAUR GitHub repo at https://github.com/w3c/media-accessibility-reqs ?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
> Sent: 11 July 2023 21:06
> To: Chris Needham <chris.needham@bbc.co.uk>
> Cc: Matthew Atkinson <matkinson@tpgi.com>; Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>; Gary Katsevman <gkatsevman@brightcove.com>; APA Chairs <group-apa-chairs@w3.org>; Paul Grenier <pgrenier@gmail.com>; Ali, Irfan <Irfan.Ali@blackrock.com>
> Subject: Re: Request for meeting with APA and MEIG at TPAC
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> Hi Chris, All:
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> A few quick responses just from me below ...
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> Chris Needham writes:
> > Hi Matthew,
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> > Thank you, that's really helpful. And also thank you to you and Janina and Jason for joining our meeting today.
> Happy for the opportunity. Thanks!
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> > We didn't talk too much about the upcoming things in our group. Here are a few thoughts:
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> > * HDR colour support for video, so the ability to render a wider range of colours and brightness. Support for HDR in HTML canvas is being proposed in the Color on the Web Community Group. What additional accessibility considerations does HDR video and graphics bring?
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> > * Apple's Dim Flashing Lights, which uses timed metadata to indicate
> > regions of a video that include flashing lights, so that the player
> > can respond by adjusting their brightness if needed.
> > https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/512
> If I understand, a similar approach was prototyped at MIT and demonstrated to our former WAI Director, Judy Brewer. It's an outstanding approach which APA (and especially RQTF) have previously discussed and fully support for flash mitigation. As you know, for some people flashing at specific intervals can literally be life-threatening.
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> > * Use of canvas based rendering for TV user interfaces. HTML is commonly used today, but some (e.g., Comcast with LightningJS) are moving towards canvas based rendering instead of HTML, to improve UI animation performance. Is there a way to access the platform's accessibility features directly without having to use HTML?
> This sounds very thorny. Animation alone is a thorny issue and disruptive to many a11y use cases. Via CSS we've developed approaches to mitigate. However, swapping in bitmapped, and dropping HTML seems literally to require recreation of the entire a11y support architecture. To do so simply for snappier animation seems a questionable value proposition to me.
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> > * The Media Working Group has just started working on the Audio Session API, which allows websites to have some control over how audio from multiple elements is mixed, such as multiple elements in a page, or across pages in different browser tabs, or with audio from the host operating system. An example use case is transient notification sounds vs longer music or speech audio playback.
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> > * Next generation audio codecs, Dolby AC-4 and MPEG-H. There's no
> > browser support for these yet, and most development is in the TV
> > industry outside of the web, so this is an exploratory area. These
> > codecs support user controllable dialog enhancement, and different
> > audio components a single bitstream e.g., multiple languages, audio
> > description, or commentary vs stadium noise at a sports event:
> > https://www.w3.org/2022/09/15-me-minutes.html#t08
> This appears to support some of what's described in MAUR 1.0 already, which contains suggestions such as "clean audio" and such as sending description to a second screen device. So, if it's being assembled from individual elements and synchronized, we might be looking for options related to output routing of various components.
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> > * More generally, another exploratory area is object based media,
> > which includes ideas such as branching narratives and additional
> > content overlaid on video. An example, accessibility features
> > sometimes are currently "burned in" to video, such as a sign language
> > interpreter, could this be delivered as separate components that are
> > composited in the client, rather than as separate rendered video
> > streams? There's more detail in this Ofcom report:
> > https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0026/223973/Object-bas
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> The burned in caption should be historic at this point! We would like to think so, anyway. There's also quite a bit about this in MAUR 1.0, and we can look to say more in 2.0. I expect we'd be more interested in routing to specific output devices and/or location and size of SL windows.
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> > Many thanks,
> Likewise!
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Atkinson <matkinson@tpgi.com>
> > Sent: 07 July 2023 19:14
> > To: Chris Needham <chris.needham@bbc.co.uk>; Nigel Megitt
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> > Cc: Gary Katsevman <gkatsevman@brightcove.com>; APA Chairs
> > <group-apa-chairs@w3.org>; Paul Grenier <pgrenier@gmail.com>; Ali,
> > Irfan <Irfan.Ali@blackrock.com>
> > Subject: Re: Request for meeting with APA and MEIG at TPAC
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> > Hi Chris, Nigel, all,
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> > Apologies for my slow reply. Janina's the expert on most of these, but she's in the process of moving, and is out at the moment, so I will do my best to describe them in a bit more detail. We will be happy to provide more clarification on the 11th if that works for you too. Here is a bit more info on each...
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> > This relates to chapter titles in media such as video (and audio). We're doing work that will help people who need to use symbols in order to understand content (either exclusively symbols, or symbols alongside prose). We'd like to ensure that chapter titles could be marked up richly, to support this need.
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> > This relates largely to written publications in which there are multiple logical "tracks" of information being presented in synch. So it could include passages from ancient texts, with have modern translations alongside, or it may include musical scores with additional information being presented alongside (e.g. lyrics or other information).
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> > UAs have got really good at displaying some things, but there are some types of media where a specialist rendering would be more suitable to people with particular access needs, and that is what we are getting at here. There may be a lack of information in the accessibility tree, due to specialised formats being used (again, we think musical notation is a good example here).
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> > For the last one, we have several ideas for updating the MAUR (some touched on above, and I think our Research Questions TF ("RQTF") group has several more, and Jason will be joining to touch on those on Tuesday).
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> > Hope this helps; please let me know if any further clarification is needed, and I hope I have conveyed our angle on these correctly.
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> > On 30/06/2023, 17:29, "Chris Needham" <chris.needham@bbc.co.uk <mailto:chris.needham@bbc.co.uk>> wrote:
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> > So far I think we have the following as potential agenda items in the APA + MEIG + TTWG meeting:
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> > * Media Accessibility User Requirements (we also have a MEIG meeting
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> > I'd like to have a bit more context for each of these, so that we can attract the right people to the meeting. A couple of the topics I'm not too familiar with, e.g., the chapter title markup, and interlinear publications - does this have a connection to audio/video or timed text?
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Atkinson <matkinson@tpgi.com
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> > To: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk
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> > Cc: Gary Katsevman <gkatsevman@brightcove.com
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> > Grenier <pgrenier@gmail.com <mailto:pgrenier@gmail.com>>; Ali, Irfan
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> > Subject: Re: Request for meeting with APA and MEIG at TPAC
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> > Hi Nigel, Gary, Chris,
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> > I've CC'd Janina (APA co-chair) and Roy (our staff contact) (I thought I had last time; oops!), as well as Paul and Irfan, who chair the Spoken Presentation TF, as you raised the topic of SSML.
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> > Apologies, I meant to get in touch after last week's TTWG call as promised. Yes, we'd be happy to have a joint meeting with the MEIG and APA. We may be able to make it on the Thursday; I'm not certain yet what my travel schedule will be, but can try to work around this.
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> > On 21/06/2023, 12:07, "Matthew Atkinson" <matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>>>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>>>>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>>>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com> <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com <mailto:matkinson@tpgi.com>>>>>>> wrote:
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> > I hope this finds you well. We in APA would very-much like to meet with you at TPAC. There are a few things that relate to both timed text and MEIG work, as well as our own, so we aim to schedule a joint meeting with all three of our groups. Here's a very rough agenda, on which we'd be happy to elaborate:
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> Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
> Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
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> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures     http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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> Linux Foundation Fellow
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Janina Sajka (she/her/hers)
Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa

Linux Foundation Fellow
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