- From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:30:07 -0500
- To: Jos de Bruijn <jos.debruijn@gmail.com>
- cc: RIF <public-rif-wg@w3.org>
> So, do you propose to change (in Table 1):
>
> Constant in the xs:string symbol space "literal string"^^xs:string
>
> to:
>
> Constant in the rdf:PlainLiteral symbol space "literal
> string@"^^rdf:PlainLiteral
>
> ?
Exactly. Also, a few lines down, there's a bullet:
* Strings, i.e., constants of the form "my string"^^xs:string may be
written as "my string".
which would be changed to:
* Plain literals without language tags, i.e., constants of the form
"my string@"^^rdf:PlainLiteral may be written as "my string".
Which makes me wonder what other specs, if any, that affects, and what
Hassan & Stella's code does. Basically, that affects the mapping from
Presentation Syntax to XML Syntax.
> That would be fine for me.
Good...
-- Sandro
> Cheers, Jos
>
> On 2010-03-04 14:11, Sandro Hawke wrote:
> >> SWC doesn't map plain literals to anything. According to the RDF
> >> semantics, plain literals without language tags are always mapped to
> >> themselves, i.e., strings of unicode characters. Now, XSD specifies that
> >> xs:string literals are also mapped to themselves, and thus they
> >> correspond 1-to-1 to plain literals w/o language tags.
> >> Now, it happens to and be the case that the value space of
> >> rdf:PlainLiteral also includes all strings. Therefore, there is a
> >> one-to-one correspondence between RDF plain literals and xs:strings of
> >> the form "xyz", on the one hand, and rdf:PlainLiterals of the form
> >> "xyz@", on the other.
> >
> > I'm not talking about the value spaces or the semantics, just the
> > syntactic correspondence in Table 1. (In terms of the semantics, yes, I
> > agree with everything you say above.)
> >
> > -- Sandro
> >
> >>
> >> Best, Jos
> >>
> >> On 2010-03-02 20:06, Sandro Hawke wrote:
> >>> During the telecon today we looked at
> >>>
> >>> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/RDF_Combination_Constant_Equivalence
> _2
> >>>
> >>> and it seems that while that example is supported by the SWC, SWC isn't
> >>> saying quite the right thing, here. It says plain literals without
> >>> language tags map to xs:string constants, but I think it would be better
> >>> to map to rdf:PlainLiteral constants. The difference is actually
> >>> invisible to any entailment test (I think? maybe it depends on the
> >>> entailment regime?), so in a sense RIF doesn't care, but for interchange
> >>> purposes is does matter. In particular, SPARQL, when not doing
> >>> entailment, will notice the difference.
> >>>
> >>> Do you remember why it's xs:string now?
> >>>
> >>> This isn't a huge problem, but if there's no compelling reason not to
> >>> change it, I think it's more correct to map to rdf:PlainLiterals.
> >>>
> >>> -- Sandro
> >>
> >> --
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