- From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:16:07 -0400
- To: Chris Welty <cawelty@gmail.com>
- Cc: "Public-Rif-Wg (E-mail)" <public-rif-wg@w3.org>
> At the next telecon we will discuss RDF compatibility. Please prepare
> for this by briefing yourself on any background you may need - this is
> an important issue to resolve (or at least substantially address) by
> the next Core WD.
There are lots of different RDF compatibility issues (we listed eight in
the F2F1 breakout [1]) but I guess there are two we're likely to address
at this point:
** RDF issue: binary vs ternary
Here the question is whether the RDF triple { s p o} appears in RIF
conditions as
- a binary atom: p(s,o)
- a "property" atom: like s[p->>o] or __property_triple(s,p,o)
The binary-atom approach seems simpler, but it doesn't allow for
variables in the property/predicate position, which seems to be
important in RDF rules. So I think we have to go with the second
option, unless there's some way to support both.
I wonder what would happen if translators supported both, in parallel.
That's kind of nuts, I guess.... Hrm. The n3 rule
{ a b c. d e f } => { g h i }
would have to turn into (ad hoc syntax)
if ( b(a,c) or a[b->>c] ) and
( e(d,f) or d[e->>f] )
then ( h(g,i) and g[h->>i] )
which isn't Horn, but can be re-writen to Horn with exponential growth.
That's nuts, right? Maybe there's some other way to support both,
though....
** RDF issue: b-nodes
Here the question is how to map an rdf triple like { _:x p o } to a RIF
atom. "_:x" is a b-node, a file-scoped existential variable.
It seems to me that:
- in a fact, a b-node is just like like a file-scope identifier.
(You know, those things we use to name things when we don't feel
like using URIs.)
- if a b-node occurs only in a rule's consequent, it's a Skolem term.
That is:
{ ... ?x ... ?y ... } => { _:x a b }
turns into
if ... ?x ... ?y ...
then a(skolem_function_x(?x, ?y), b)
[how do you write that in f-logic? skf(?x,?y)[a->>b] ? ]
- if a b-node occurs in just the antecendent, or in both the
antecedent and the consequent, it's probably the same as a
universally quantified variable. If it also occurs in a fact, who
knows .... but hopefully the language designer does, so we don't
have to.
There may be some other cases, ... but the bottom line, I think, is that
one can map between b-nodes and constructs we'll have in RIF Core
anyway. So RIF Core doesn't need to do anything to accomodate b-nodes.
It would be nice to have some way to indicated that a term is a Skolem
term. I know lots of reasoners want that anyway, but I've never quite
understood why. In this case, it might be needed for round-tripping.
(Although, in going from RIF to n3, all function terms -- Skolem or not
-- will have to be translates into b-node expressions. So maybe we
don't need a Skolem flag.)
-- Sandro
[1] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/F2F1_Breakout_Session_on_OWL_and_RDF_Compatibility
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