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<ChrisW> scribenick: harold
<MichaelKifer> IPCaller is MichaelKifer
<ChrisW> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006May/att-0229/09-rif-minutes.xml
<MichaelKifer> #41
Minutes May 9th accepted
<ChrisW> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006May/att-0185/rif-minutes-2006-05-16.html
Minutes May 16th accepted
<PaulaP> no updates
<AxelPolleres> no news, everything on track I guess.
<StanDevitt2> NOTE: Jos DeRoo has checked for DAWG participation. No other members currently attend both calls.
<PaulaP> the action of Allen is done
<csma> Paula is right (about Allen's question being done)
Action 19 COMPLETED (by Gary Hallmark)
<StanDevitt2> Re DAWG coordination, will probably need to draw issues to the atttention of the DAWG chair(s)
<sandro> ack ??P24
<AxelPolleres> unmuting is 63#
Discussion about soundness.
<sandro> No, AxelPolleres Unmute is 61#
<sandro> No, AxelPolleres Unmute is 60#
<sandro> (D'oh!)
<ChrisW> ack +1408
<ChrisW> ack
<sandro> ack +1.408.564.aaaa
Sandro and Harold: Our notion of soundness seems to be slightly more general than the one in (Lloyd 87).
<PaulaP> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006May/0209.html
<PaulaP> for Allen's action
<ChrisW> thanks
Frank and Paula's GCR document: So far little feedback. More feedback should be sent.
<DavidHirtle> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006May/att-0188/RIF_requirements.png
<DavidHirtle> there's frank's diagram
<sandro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006May/att-0188/RIF_requirements.png
<AxelPolleres> the option with mail is fine, or no....
<ChrisW> zakim [ibm] is probably StellaMitchell
Evan and Sandro like Frank's diagram.
<ChrisW> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006May/0198.html
Paula solicits feedback on her email on Current list of reqs and design principles.
<ChrisW> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006May/0197.html
RIFRAF discussion
<AxelPolleres> I preceded all my concrete comments on RIFRAF with "--> comment axel:" in the mail,
<ChrisW> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006May/0232.html
Actions completed by Peter, Hassan, Axel, Paula.
<scribe> New Action for Harold: Respond to Axel's RIFRAF analysis.
<StanDevitt2> Action completed by Jos DeRoo re DAWG interaction
<PaulaP> +1 to Hassan's proposal
<AxelPolleres> +1 to set RIFRAF subcommittee atf2f3
Hassan: Besides responding to shortcomings to the current RIFRAF, we should also extend it.
Will be a topic of F2F3.
Discussion on Technical Design.
Chris: The chairs have polled the group about the Extensible Design: it should now be used as a working syntax.
<AxelPolleres> My action on this continued.
Chris and Sandro: Mappings from other languages to the Condition Language should be attempted.
The emails by Peter and Gerd amount to a SWRL mapping.
Chris: Would be nice to have Production Rules mapped both to RIFRAF and to Condition Language.
Hassan: Already did Production Rules (of ILOG) in RIFRAF. Mapping goes not to surface syntax but directly to the XML level.
<StanDevitt2> +1
Hassan: What about features that are not currently in the (XML element) core?
Chris: Please comment on what features are missing.
<AxelPolleres> +1 to entereing mappings on Wiki, but should also be sent by mail
Chris: Identifying where mapping cannot be done is as important as showing where it can be done.
<sandro> Rete
Paul and Gary: Hassan is speaking for Fair Isaac and Oracle when he shows what can be done for Production Rules with the Condition Language of the Extensible Design.
<Hassan> +1
<StanDevitt2> +1
No other business.
<StanDevitt2> -
<StanDevitt2> -StanDevitt2
<StanDevitt2> bye
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