- From: Pascal Hitzler <hitzler@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de>
- Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 01:57:59 +0100
- To: public-rif-wg@w3.org
(also in response to Hassans post)
I agree.
There's simply a problem with the term "operational semantics" which
seems to mean different things in different communities. That's why I
chose "procedural semantics" which (imho unambiguously) refers to
algorithmic processing like in a real implementation.
I believe that we don't really have a disagreement.
Best Regards,
Pascal.
Bijan Parsia wrote:
> On Dec 9, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Pascal Hitzler wrote:
>
>> Hassan,
>>
>> I very much apprechiate your point - the term "formal semantics" is
>> easily interpreted in too narrow a sense. But let me just add (and
>> emphasize, as I assume that you agree with me on this) that procedural
>> semantics alone is not satisfactory for a semantic web context, as it
>> usually binds a language to a specific engine, and is thus not in the
>> spirit of interoperability and interchange.
>
>
> That's a bit strong, isn't it? I'm not sure if you meant there to be a
> nuance with "procedural" vs. "operational" semantics, but in programming
> theory, an operational semantics works by describing the behavior of an
> abstract machine at varying levels of granuality, sometimes at quite a
> high level. So, there is a sense that this "binds" the language to a
> specific (abstract) engine, but you can show equivalence of various
> abstract machines (at some level of granularity). Maybe to bring it back
> to the more familiar, you can show the equivalence of two proof theories
> (e.g., that they validate the same theorems and lets assume a deduction
> theorem) without detouring through a semantics.
>
> (Or to make it simpler...and operational semantics that was useless for
> optimization, e.g., for showing that substituting a faster function for
> a more expensive one in a certain context produced the same actual
> results, would be a damn poor semantics indeed :))
>
> I don't say it's *appealing*, but it can be made to work. And sometimes
> it is appealing :)
>
> Cheers,
> Bijan.
>
>
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