- From: Andreas Kuckartz <A.Kuckartz@ping.de>
- Date: 10 Jul 2013 12:42:16 +0200
- To: public-restrictedmedia@w3.org
John Foliot: > 1) Members of the W3C are working on an open API - EME - that will > allow for a standardized implementation of CDM support in the > browsers. It is acknowledged that *at this time* commercial CDMs are > "closed" and proprietary. That should enough reason to halt all work on EME immediately. > 2) The W3C management have continually stated that the director of > the W3C has ruled that work on EME is in scope for the HTML5 Working > Group. It is not exactly clear what the director of the W3C has ruled. As far as I know he ruled about "content protection" being in scope, without defining that term. But we do not even have a common understanding regarding "Open Web Platform" and "Open Standards". > This work is at the beginning of the W3C Recommendation process, but > has not yet emerged as a W3C "standard". Thanks for agreeing that Netflix is publicly misrepresenting the situation. > 4) The only people making *demands* at this time are you and others > opposed to Digital Rights Management. You are demanding that the W3C > not do standards work that is perfectly legitimate, legal and desired > by members of the W3C. EME is not an "open" standard (at least according the the definition of that term published by the OSI). >> So what other W3C standards can't be implemented in Free Software? > > The <object> element (http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-html5-20110525 > /the-iframe-element.html#the-object-element) allows for the embedding > of non-html content inside of a web document, including content such > as Flash and Silverlight that is not "Free Software". It is questionable if <object> today would again be accepted by the W3C HTML WG. Anyway: Relevant Open Source projects exist: Gnash, Swfdec and Lightspark. > The <video> and <audio> elements allow for the use of non-open codecs > such as MP3 and MP4(H.264) - "allow for" is different from "at this time are closed and proprietary". Websites interested in reaching all users make videos available in H.264 and WebM format. > a codec that Mozilla acknowledges is not "open" (encumbered format), > but that they will support (especially on the mobile platform) - > https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/03/video-mobile-and-the-open-web/ It is widely known that Google betrayed the Open Source community by not dropping support for H.264 as it had announced. DRM is worse than a patent encumbered video format. Patent documents at least are accessible to the general public. > If you want a Free Software instance of DRM, you or > others should produce one for evaluation. > There is a time for talking, and a time for doing. > It is now time for the doing - so please, go do it. I am as interested in that as in designing a perpetuum mobile. If proponents of EME like to spend time on that they certainly can do so. Maybe they should start with a specification - but that seems to be out of scope for the W3C. > In the colloquial, it's time to fish or cut bait. The ball is firmly in your court. You seem to participate in a different game. Cheers, Andreas
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