Re: "Enclosed shops" Re: HTML5 and DRM - A Middle Path?

On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 10:16 -0700, Mark Watson wrote:
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> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Andreas Kuckartz <a.kuckartz@ping.de>
> wrote:
>         Mark Watson:
>         >> You probably meant to write this:
>         >>
>         >> Enclosed shops which are operated in the homes of the
>         customers and
>         >> might be watching and listening to them on behalf of
>         companies and/or
>         >> secret agencies (again: Google Widevine is promoting
>         "silent monitoring").
>         >
>         > You've mentioned this and other similar things a few times
>         and I've
>         > explained how the EME approach is an improvement for users
>         in this
>         > respect.
>         >
>         > If a browser integrates a specific CDM, what makes you think
>         that they
>         > will pay less attention to user security and privacy with
>         respect to
>         > that part of the browser compared to the attention they pay
>         to the
>         > rest of the browser ?
>         
>         
>         That is a question which I consider to be irrelevant in this
>         context.
>         Especially while the U.S. government claims the right to issue
>         "National
>         Security Letters" with gag orders and is using that alleged
>         right for
>         criminal purposes against the world population.
>         
>         The W3C should not in any way participate in this, stop the
>         work on EME
>         and publicly denounce DRM.
> 
> 
> I'm confused why you think this has anything to do with EME. 
>  
>         
>         Would Netflix inform the public or shut down its operations
>         when it
>         receives a secret order to participate in surveillance by
>         using a
>         backdoor contained in a CDM which is already installed on a
>         users
>         computer? (After the shutdown of lavabit.com this
>         unfortunately is not a
>         rhetorical question.)
> 
> 
> That question is somewhat above my pay grade, but my point is that it
> is no more likely that a browser-integrated CDM contains such a back
> door than that the browser itself contains the same thing. And
> equally, it is no more likely that an OS-integrated CDM contains such
> a back door than the OS itself contains it. So, EME and DRM are
> completely irrelevant to your concerns.
> 
> 
> ...Mark
>         
        This is all pretty likely and there's no way to truly verify it.
        You're inferring that we're all supposed to be okay with this
        likely-hood.
        
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>         
>         Cheers,
>         Andreas
> 
> 


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