- From: Anselm Hannemann <info@anselm-hannemann.com>
- Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 23:15:30 +0200
- To: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
- Cc: 'Charles McCathie Nevile' <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, 'Mathew Marquis' <mat@matmarquis.com>, 'Steve Faulkner' <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, 'HTML WG' <public-html@w3.org>, public-respimg@w3.org
- Message-ID: <C74CD1CA7521461D89C58FEDF4235512@anselm-hannemann.com>
Am Freitag, 31. August 2012 um 23:07 schrieb John Foliot: > Charles McCathie Nevile wrote > > > > On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 21:14:06 +0200, Steve Faulkner > > <faulkner.steve@gmail.com (mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > > As previously discussed and bugged I do not support the addition of > > an > > > alt attribute to the picture element. > > > > [...] > > I agree. I am not a fan of the alt attribute as the way to incorporate > > alternative content, and would prefer to see a model like object or > > video. > > > > Since, as the quip goes, a picture is worth a thousand words, I fear that we might start seeing something like this: > > <picture> > Painting: The Scream by Edvard Munch. In the painting, the central figure is abstracted and barely human, reduced down to the essence of acute anguish. The central figure is portrayed as having both hands placed on either side of their head, while the mouth is open in a rounded "O", as if screaming. The two smaller figures in the back left are sketched quite loosely, but still appear more completely human. All 3 characters appear to be standing on a boardwalk or bridge, set against a reddish sky suggesting sunset. The artist’s active and dynamic use of curving lines and strong colors give the composition an intense energy. What The Scream portrays is not a dream, but a nightmare. > > <img alt="Painting: The Scream by Edvard Munch"> > </picture> > > Which will be a horrible user-experience (IMHO) if a screen reader user was forced the expanded description every time. This would reduce the amount of longer textual descriptions produced (a bad thing IMO) rather than encourage their creation. No, this is a website-creator issue. If he provides such long texts it either has a reason (you also can use this responsively for devices not displaying images as a text-fallback, so I think this variant is very very useful) or he does a bad job. Also you already can set this text length into alt-attribute value although it's not that charming. So, no accessibility issue here (confirmed to me by an disabled expert), just more responsiveness. > > (Related question, could/would that text be HTML rich? What if it read, instead: > > Yes, this would be possible. I am not sure what the current draft says here but you should be able to set inline-elements here. > > ... my initial thoughts would be that the answer is "No", for a raft of reasons) Can you share your thoughts if there are ones that are true for inline-elements? > > > Thanks for feedback, -Anselm
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