- From: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
- Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:45:00 -0400
- To: RDFa WG <public-rdfa-wg@w3.org>
Hi all, I've started documenting the PR Transition Paperwork here: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/wiki/Html-rdfa-1.1-pr-overview While working on the page, I've come to believe that we're taking the wrong approach for the datetime and rdf:HTML support. I also believe that Mike Smith(tm)'s change is not a substantive change per the W3C definition of a substantive change. That said, I don't think the group needs to go through a 2nd Last Call. We still need to pass this logic by Ralph and Thomas. Here are the arguments: datetime and rdf:HTML support ----------------------------- I think we should put a statement in the "Status of the Document" section stating that the HTML5 datetime support, and the rdf:HTML support is normative, but not finalized in the normatively-referenced specifications. If the features end up not being supported, a correction will be made in the errata of the HTML+RDFa 1.1 specification, so implementers should check those from time-to-time to ensure that they have not been removed. Those errata will be merged into a future HTML+RDFa 1.1 PER, but that PER doesn't have to be created by the current RDFa WG. This has the advantages that: 1. The RDFa WG can end in June, we won't have to convince the W3C AC to hibernate but extend the RDFa WG charter by months if not years. 2. In the very worst case, the specification can be corrected in the errata and the test suite updated to match. In other words, I think we're over-thinking this a bit too much. These are nice-to-have features (@datetime and rdf:HTML) that will not break HTML+RDFa 1.1 even in the very worst case... and even then, they are easily corrected. The W3C needs a unified way of supporting specs that are capable of safely going to REC in these sorts of scenarios. In the very least, we should ask Ralph and Thomas if this is a reasonable path forward. Narrowing validity for LINK and META ------------------------------------ The other change we made makes the <link> and <meta> elements only valid in the body of an HTML5 document if @property also exists in those elements. Some argued that this is a substantive change to the HTML+RDFa 1.1 Last Call document. After reading the W3C documents on the matter, I disagree. Here's the definition from W3C's Process document: """ A substantive change (whether deletion, inclusion, or other modification) is one where someone could reasonably expect that making the change would invalidate an individual's review or implementation experience. Other changes (e.g., clarifications, bug fixes, editorial repairs, and minor error corrections) are minor changes. """ This change does not affect any of the RDFa Processor implementations. It is specific to an HTML5 Document Validator. The change does not invalidate Mike Smith(tm)'s implementation experience but is a product of input from him. Thus, this change should be categorized as either a "bug fix" or a "minor error correction", not a substantive change. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If these arguments hold then we don't need to go through a 2nd LC for HTML+RDFa 1.1 and we've solved the problem of taking HTML+RDFa 1.1 to REC with a more light-weight approach for this group and for W3C. -- manu -- Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny) Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. blog: Aaron Swartz, PaySwarm, and Academic Journals http://manu.sporny.org/2013/payswarm-journals/
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