- From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:25:56 -0500
- To: public-rdf-wg <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>
I'm still having trouble following the discussion due to ambiguity of
terms. But I don't want us to argue about terms at this stage. So I'd
like to propose some temporary terms. They are intentionally a little
quirky and not suitable for use in our final specs. Instead, they are
meant to be short and unambiguous and relatively memorable. At the end
of this email, I try to connect them to other people's terms.
Here they are:
1. A "g-box" is a container, like a "set" data structure in
programming. It holds some RDF arcs, with their nodes. (Alternatively,
it holds some RDF triples.). G-boxes can overlap, sharing some of the
same nodes and arcs. Two g-boxes can happen to have the same contents
(right now) while being distinct g-boxes. G-boxes contents can change:
today a particular g-box might contain the triples { my:a my:b _:x.
my:a my:c _:x }, and tomorrow it might instead contain { my:a my:b _:x.
my:a my:c2 _:x }.
2. A "g-snap" as an idealized snapshot of a g-box; it's a mathematical
set of RDF arcs, with their nodes. (Alternatively, a mathematical set
of RDF triples.) Like g-boxes, g-snaps can overlap, sharing nodes and
arcs. Unlike g-boxes, it makes no sense to talk about g-snaps
changing: they are defined to be exactly the collection of their
elements. If a g-snap were to "change" it would simply be a different
g-snap. If two g-snaps have the same nodes/arcs, they are really the
same g-snap. The contents of a g-box at any point in time are a
g-snap.
3. A "g-text" is a particular sequence of characters or bytes which
conveys a particular g-snap in some language (eg turtle or rdf/xml). If
you can parse a g-text, you know what is in the g-snap it conveys
(except blank nodes, as discussed below). You can tell someone exactly
what is in a particular g-box at some instant by sending them a
g-text. (You send them the g-text which conveys the g-snap which is
the current state/contents of that g-box.)
Are those terms and descriptions clear enough? Are there edge cases
they are missing?
Now, about URIs:
* A g-box can exist without any name or persistent way of referring to
it; it can exist as a data structure in a running program, or I
suppose it can exists in someone's mind. Long-lived g-boxes
probably SHOULD be given a preferred single working URL, but there
might be times when you do don't want to give it any, or when you
want to give it several URLs.
* You can convey a g-snap with a g-text, but I don't think you usually
want to name them with URIs. Sometimes you want to put a g-snap
into a URI, but that's rare, since in many cases g-snaps are too
long for most URI-handling software. For constrained applications,
though, where overrun is unlikely or okay, you can embed a g-text
somewhere in an http URI (eg, as a query parameter), or maybe use
"data:" URI.
And blank nodes? I think it works like this:
* Two g-snaps can contain the same blank node. A simple example of
this is to take a g-snap containing at least one blank node, then
construct another by adding the triple { my:a my:b my:c }. The
original g-snap and the one resulting from the union both contain
the same blank nodes.
* By a similar argument, I believe two g-boxes can also contain the
same blank node, although not all software will support this. Given
a g-box A, I could construct A' to contain whatever A contains and
also { my:a my:b my:c }. This happens sometimes in real programs;
I'd be curious to know which RDF APIs disallow sharing blank nodes
between their graph-storage instances; my experience is they allow
it when it's not a problem (eg they are both in memory right now).
* In general, while g-texts do convey g-snaps, they do not identify
the blank nodes in them. So, in fact, if you go
g-snap A --> g-text --> g-snap A'
A=A' only if it does not contain blank nodes, because parsing a
g-snap results in all-new blank nodes.
We might define new RDF syntaxes which allow for several g-texts to
be grouped in such a way that blank nodes can be shared between them.
This is an issue for our work item, "Either [the turtle] syntax or a
related syntax should also support multiple graphs and graph stores."
How's that sound? Make sense?
Okay, relating to other people's terms...
"Tokens", as I read today's email, seem to mostly be g-texts but
sometimes be something that can change over time, and thus be a
container for a g-text, something we might call a "g-text-box". I
think this later meaning conflates things in a way which will cause
problems, eg for understanding content-negotiation.
"Graphs" in the RDF Semantics are g-snaps.
"Named Graphs", as in SPARQL 1.0, are g-boxes which happen to each
be assigned a URI.
"Graph Literals", as suggested by N3 (and disagreeing with Nathan,
sorry), are a feature of an RDF syntax that allows you to denote a
g-snap by a special kind of term (a "graph literal"). In n3, it looks
like:
{ _:x my:says { _x: foaf:name "Sandro Hawke" } }.
One can approximate this with every RDF syntax by using a
suitably-defined URI scheme or datatype, such as:
{ _:x my:says "_:x <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name> \"Sandro Hawke\""^^my:turtleCode }
This isn't as convenient as the N3 approach, and doesn't doesn't allow
blank nodes to be shared (in the second example, the _:x's are not
connected), but it does work in existing RDF syntaxes.
I'd better stop now.
-- Sandro
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