- From: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>
- Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:28:59 -0600
- To: Jeremy Carroll <jeremy@topquadrant.com>
- Cc: public-rdf-wg@w3.org
On Dec 19, 2011, at 7:40 PM, Jeremy Carroll wrote: > On 12/17/2011 7:37 AM, Ivan Herman wrote: >> >> (1) RDF Datasets. It consists of labelled graphs: (G, l), where l is an URI. (Some raised the possibility to use literals for 'l', but I think there is a consensus to use URI-s). There is no semantic relationship between 'G' and 'l', so something like (with an ad-hoc syntax here): >> >> ( {a:b c:d e:f}, mailto:ivan@w3.org } >> >> is a perfectly o.k. labelled graph in an RDF Dataset >> >> It seems that most (all?) quad stores fall into this category as well as the datasets in SPARQL >> >> (2) Named Graphs. It is a special RDF dataset, where the label 'l' is a (HTTP?) URI with an additional behaviour: if that URI is poked (GET-d) then it results in the serialization of a Graph whose parsing yields an equivalent graph to 'G'. It is the right/good framework for, say, Linked Data, etc. >> > > It seems to me that we can make a lot of progress by exploring the common ground between these as test cases: > e.g. do we allow the same URI twice. I think there is a general consensus that this should be prohibited, no matter what ones views are on the "denotation/label" issue. So, whats your next test case? Pat > > I would have thought that most people would be unhappy with: > > A) > > { ( {a:b c:d e:f}, mailto:ivan@w3.org ), ( {}, mailto:ivan@w3.org ) } > > and also with > > > > B) > > { ( {a:b c:d e:f}, http://example.org/consensus ), ( {}, http://example.org/consensus > ) } > > If that is the case, then we have moved forward (even if only by a little) > And so I would like to propose these two test cases for consideration at the telecon. > > Proposal: the RDF 1.1 Recommendation will not recommend the use of either (A) or (B) > > > Once we have agreed on one test case, then we can try for a second - rather than the somewhat boring threads of conversation: running over the same old ground, and how we found the same old fears ... > > Jeremy > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ IHMC (850)434 8903 or (650)494 3973 40 South Alcaniz St. (850)202 4416 office Pensacola (850)202 4440 fax FL 32502 (850)291 0667 mobile phayesAT-SIGNihmc.us http://www.ihmc.us/users/phayes
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