- From: Olaf Hartig <olaf.hartig@liu.se>
- Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 17:56:48 +0100
- To: public-rdf-star@w3.org
Hi Peter,
On onsdag 10 februari 2021 kl. 11:12:01 CET Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
> On 2/10/21 10:54 AM, Olaf Hartig wrote:
> > [...]
> > No, not in general. By the currently proposed semantics of RDF* [1,2], it
> > is not generally the case that an embedded triple can be used as
> > shorthand for the corresponding four reification triples. Consequently,
> > something like this is also not possible in queries.
>
> There are other proposed semantics.
I only see these two as a pull request.
> > [...]
> > Having said that, in this thread here I have demonstrated that, even if we
> > cannot draw such inferences for embedded triples in general, it is still
> > possible to do so in specific contexts (namely, if an embedded triple is
> > the subject or object of a particular type of nested triple).
>
> I'm unclear as to what facility this refers to.
Consider the following nested triple as an example (written in Turtle*, prefix
declarations omitted).
<<:cars :are :bad>> ex:statedBy :Alice .
It is possible to explicitly define the property ex:statedBy to have a
semantics that applies referential transparency when used in nested triples
such as the one above. Then, if we know that the URIs :cars and :automobiles
denote the same thing, we can infer the following nested triple from the one
above.
<<:automobiles :are :bad>> ex:statedBy :Alice .
Earlier in this thread I have discussed this in detail; see:
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-star/2021Jan/0108.html
In particular, I have defined this semantics of ex:statedBy in terms of a
SPARQL CONSTRUCT query, which I repeat here for your convenience:
PREFIX owl: <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#>
PREFIX ex: <http://example.org/>
CONSTRUCT {
<<?s2 ?p ?o2>> ex:statedBy ?mo .
}
WHERE {
<<?s1 ?p ?o1>> ex:statedBy ?mo .
{
?s1 owl:sameAs ?s2 .
BIND( ?o1 AS ?o2 )
}
UNION
{
?o1 owl:sameAs ?o2 .
BIND( ?s1 AS ?s2 )
}
UNION
{
?s1 owl:sameAs ?s2 .
?o1 owl:sameAs ?o2 .
}
}
Note that for this query I have assumed that owl:sameAs is used to express the
semantic equivalence of URIs such as :cars and :automobiles.
Best,
Olaf
> > Best,
> > Olaf
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/pull/81
> > [2] https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/pull/88
>
> peter
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