Re: RDF* vs RDF vs named graphs

On 12/3/20 3:58 PM, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>
> On 03/12/2020 20:41, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>> On 12/3/20 4:35 AM, Olaf Hartig wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> It's bad enough that people have treated (and continue to do
>>>> so!) treat*anything*  asserted in RDF as universal and perpetual
>>>> truths.
>>>>
>>>> { :redLight :means :go . :greenLight :means :stop }
>>>>
>>>> { :outdoors :temperature "36 degrees Fahrenheit"}
>>>>
>>>> { :moon :madeOf :cheeseGreen . }
>>>>
>>>> { :pigs :have :wings . }
>>>>
>>>> *BAM*
>>>>
>>>> World ends.  (OK, it just gets really messy for a little while.)
>>> This observation is not specific to RDF* but it already is a
>>> "property" of
>>> RDF. RDF* is not meant to change RDF but to extend it.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Olaf
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Olaf,
>>
>> Extending RDF is not the same thing as Syntax Sugar for an aspect of
>> RDF.
>>
>> If RDF* is an extension of RDF then it will have to conform to the
>> underlying semantics of RDF.
>>
> Are there any proposals that would not conform?
>
>     Andy


Hi Andy,

I could also ask:

To what do any proposals conform, so far? 

Also note the recent quote from Peter who has expended a serious amount
of time trying to get somewhere, on this very front:

"What should be concluded from this?  Just about the most charitable
conclusion is that RDF* is unsuitable for its claimed use. So what is
RDF* good for?  I am concerned about this." [1] . 


Links:

[1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-star/2020Dec/0024.html

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