Re: ShEx questionnaire (was Re: RDF validation questionnaire)

If such things are published on a w3.org address by a W3C staff member 
who is also W3C contact for the Shapes WG, and the page clearly states 
that this will be input to the WG, then at a minimum the WG should have 
been informed about this initiative in advance. Why do we have an ISSUE 
tracker that everyone is supposed to use for important decisions? Why do 
we have weekly meetings?

Having said this, it is always good to collect feedback. Yet by framing 
the questionnaire in certain ways, it is easy to get the answers that 
you intended in advance. For example of course people will say they need 
negation, yet the document doesn't mention that one way to achieve that 
would be to use SPARQL.

Thanks,
Holger


On 4/16/15 4:30 AM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
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> I am rather disappointed that the questionnaire is so tied to ShEx,
> particularly considering the subject of the email that went out.
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> As far as I am concerned the only information that the working group will be
> able to take away from the questionnaire is what people think should be
> included in ShEx.  This may have very little to do with what should be
> included in SHACL.
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> peter
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> On 04/15/2015 10:09 AM, Eric Prud'hommeaux wrote:
>> In some Mayo grant work, I have prepared a questionnaire on the
>> expressivity of shape expressions. It presents a high-level language for
>> expressing RDF constraints, explains a number of the technical points,
>> and asks the user for which features and technical approaches are
>> important to their work and their view of what will make the language
>> successful. There are a couple places where you can click for extra
>> geekiness, in case the baseline geekiness was insufficient.
>>
>> I'd like people to fill out the form imagining their immediate uses for
>> RDF validation as well as those that may come with new markets enabled by
>> the existence of such RDF validating tooling. The form will record your
>> results whenever you hit submit so you can easily revisit your answers
>> after reflection.
>>
>> This work is supported in part by a NIH U01 grant – caCDE-QA
>> (1U01CA180940-01A1).
>>
>> On the top of my game here... here's the link:
>> http://www.w3.org/2015/ShExpressivity
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