- From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:09:26 +0100
- To: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@formsPlayer.com>
- CC: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>, Elias Torres <elias@torrez.us>, "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>, W3C RDFa task force <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
Mark Birbeck wrote: > Hi Ivan, > > GRDDL is a necessary hack to allow legacy mark-up to be made > 'semantic'. But I don't think anyone would seriously suggest that you > can build a 'semantic web' on such a flaky framework. Which means that > it's not a good idea to design languages on the basis that 'it doesn't > matter what I do, because I can always GRDDL it'. > > So, I'm going to save my 'yey' for later. I'm hoping that there will > be some serious coordination on this issue, and anything less is a > missed opportunity. > > It will be interesting to see if the two standards organisations can > rise to the challenge. > > All the best, > > Mark > I disagree with the sentiment: > I don't think anyone would seriously suggest that you > can build a 'semantic web' on such a flaky framework. Clearly, once a particular format for expressing metadata has widespread adoption, or within an application that uses a particular format extensively, it is well worth the effort to code up specific rules for that format, and not rely on a general purpose mechanism like GRDDL (that is less efficient and introduces some security issues, easily addressable for any limited set of transforms). But, equally clearly, while developing a new format and during its initial deployment a flexible framework, like GRDDL, is very useful. Also, a framework that has made it through to rec is more useful (and less 'flaky') than one that hasn't. So in terms of ODF a) I think that making their schema GRDDL aware is an easy win, and an easy way of publishing the semantic intent of their documents b) this is not a particular wonderful long term plan, and as a developer of a semantic web framework, with responsibility for XML I/O I would expect a feature request for specific support for ODF, if it is at all successful. I would begin to think about addressing this six months after ODF was stable. c) GRDDL acts as a working solution, while developers like me allocate time and effort to do a better implementation Jeremy
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