- From: Steven Pemberton <steven.pemberton@cwi.nl>
- Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:09:34 +0200
- To: RDFa <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
- Cc: "XHTML WG" <public-xhtml2@w3.org>
In technicolour:
http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes
Two new action items:
[NEW] ACTION: Ben to schedule new telecon time starting May 7
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action18]
[NEW] ACTION: Mark to write up a consistent story on the @SRC
attribute [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]
In plain old black and white:
- DRAFT -
RDFa Weekly Teleconference 23 Apr 2007
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Apr/0135
[3]Previous minutes
[3] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes
See also: [4]IRC log
[4] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-irc
Attendees
Present
Ben_Adida, Steven, wing, mhausenblas, ShaneM, Simone,
Mark_Birbeck, FabienG, EliasT
Regrets
Ralph
Chair
Ben
Scribe
Steven
Contents
* [5]Topics
1. [6]Actions
2. [7]Test cases
3. [8]Actions (slight return)
4. [9]src attribute
* [10]Summary of Action Items
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Actions
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to ask W3C about XML-DTD validation
[recorded in
[11] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action19]
[ONGOING]
[11] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action19
Ben: My action is "why doesn't W3C Validator accept xmlns?"
<mhausenblas>
[12]
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0001.xhtml
[12]
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0001.xhtml
mh: The test case above validates at W3C
Ben: I think using internal subsets like this will scare people away
mh: It is just to get it to validate
Ben: I am very worried doing it this way
Mark: Let's table this for another week
... I chatted with Shane, who had chatted with Steven, and I think
there is a solution emerging
... let's put it properly on the agenda
Ben: I'll put it on the agenda in 2 weeks when I am back from my
move
Steven: I saw that this had been added as a bug on the validator bug
system ([13]http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4475)
[13] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4475
Test cases
mh: Look at [14]the test suite, you'll see the partitioning has been
done
... there is a question of the correct format for XHTML 1.1
... extension, namespaces etc.
... we need to decide that
[14] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/
Ben: Once you have an answer, it will be straight-forward to go with
it
mh: Yes
Ben: I must check the bookmarklet on the latest test cases
... next week
... you got feedback from Fabien?
mh: Yes
Ben: Can you proceed?
mh: We can do the core set
Steven: W3C urls are supposed to be opaque, so there is no meaning
to "file extension" in that context - it is the media type that is
importnant. The file extension and the media type are orthogonal
issues. If we use .html as the file extension in the filestore, and
override the W3C default media type using .htaccess, it will work in
IE.
Ben: PROPOSE: that we prepare the XHTML1.1 TCs by ignoring the xmlns
validation issues for now
<mhausenblas> +1
Simone: Other markup languages have similar problems to us
... the validator will fix it
... I think this is a correct approach
Ben: Any opposition or abstention?
<Simone> +1
[none]
RESOLUTION: that we prepare the XHTML1.1 TCs by ignoring the xmlns
validation issues for now
PROPOSAL: use the suffix .html on the files and serve as
application/xhtml+xml
Ben: Is this the right thing to do?
<ShaneM> There is no W3C blessed file suffix.
<mhausenblas> [15]test input without suffix
[15]
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0001
<Steven> That is being served as text/plain
Shane: using a suffix of .html is fine as I am concerned
Mark: Why isn't content negotiation the right thing?
Steven: Because this solution is better - it is being served to IE
as application/xhtml+xml, and working
Ben: Let's treat this as a separate agenda item
... and discuss on the mailing list
... I have to leave in 8 mins
... most actions are mine
Actions (slight return)
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to discuss Primer and Use Cases as Note,
Syntax and Test Cases as REC, at SWD WG meeting [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]
[16] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action14
Ben: Ralph thinks that the primer needs to be rec track
<scribe> -- Done
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to discuss RDFa Overview as a note
[recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action15] [DONE]
[17] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action15
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to email list about next week's vote on a
resolution regarding CLASS and ROLE attributes and rdf:type.
[recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action18] [DONE]
[18] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action18
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to email the resolution on mime type to
the mailing list [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action20] [DONE]
[19] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action20
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to flesh out the schedule and present for
everyone's approval next week. [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]
[CONTINUES]
[20] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action17
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to hand over rdfa syntax baton to Steven
on 4/23 [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action16] [DONE]
[21] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action16
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] MichaelH to do partitioning of TCs, freeze
the XHTML1.1+RDFa, and invite implementors to comment. [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]
[CONTINUES]
[22] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action13
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Ben start a list of RDF/XML features that
are not supported by RDFa [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[CONTINUES]
[23] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action01
<EliasT> :-)
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Ben to look into Science Commons use case
[recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04]
[CONTINUES]
[24] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Ben to take a look at
[25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006J
un/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]
[CONTINUES]
[25]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html
[26] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action17
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Elias to send email to list with use case
from IBM [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]
[CONTINUES]
[27] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Mark produce more examples of
applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#action08]
[CONTINUES]
[28] http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#action08
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] MarkB to work rdf:label back into RDFa
syntax when using @content [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html#action25]
[CONTINUES]
[29] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html#action25
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc
with all mime type, etc. [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]
[CONTINUES]
[30] http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Wing add a property to the test case
schema for tracking origin and approval of an individual test
[recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
[31] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action11
<scribe> -- Continues
src attribute
Ben: Shane, what is your opinion?
... or are you looking for advice?
Shane: Well, looking for group opinion
Ben: One approach is to treat it like href
Mark: The element name already gives some clue
... so it is different from href
... I have another proposal that I haven't yet written up about
@class being a predicate
Ben: The element type doesn't really work for me
Mark: The predicate may end up in the wrong place
... (working this out on the fly)
... if you want foaf:depiction
<EliasT> example please?
Ben: I can see how you would use @class for a type on the image, and
rel for the relationship with the document
... Can you write this up this week?
Mark: Yes
<benadida> ACTION: Mark to write up a consistent story on the @SRC
attribute [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]
[32] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action17
Steven: XHTML2 has src and href on the same element in some cases
... so we have to watch out
Mark: Still we want to be able to use the src as a source of a URI
Ben: I have to go
... you can discuss src and role if you want
<benadida> ACTION: Ben to schedule new telecon time starting May 7
[recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action18]
[33] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action18
Ben: and will schedule a new teleconference time
Steven: I propose we do the rest of the discussion on email, so you
Ben can be involved
Ben: OK, in that case, adjourn
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Ben to discuss Primer and Use Cases as Note, Syntax
and Test Cases as REC, at SWD WG meeting [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]
[NEW] ACTION: Ben to schedule new telecon time starting May 7
[recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action18]
[NEW] ACTION: Mark to write up a consistent story on the @SRC
attribute [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]
[34] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action14
[35] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action18
[36] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action17
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben start a list of RDF/XML features that are not
supported by RDFa [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to ask W3C about XML-DTD validation [recorded
in [38]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action19]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to flesh out the schedule and present for
everyone's approval next week. [recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case
[recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to take a look at
[41]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006J
un/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved [recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]
[PENDING] ACTION: Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM
[recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark produce more examples of applicability of
n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: MarkB to work rdf:label back into RDFa syntax when
using @content [recorded in
[45]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html#action25]
[PENDING] ACTION: MichaelH to do partitioning of TCs, freeze the
XHTML1.1+RDFa, and invite implementors to comment. [recorded in
[46]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]
[PENDING] ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all
mime type, etc. [recorded in
[47]http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Wing add a property to the test case schema for
tracking origin and approval of an individual test [recorded in
[48]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
[37] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action01
[38] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action19
[39] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action17
[40] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04
[41]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html
[42] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action17
[43] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10
[44] http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#action08
[45] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html#action25
[46] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action13
[47] http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01
[48] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action11
[DONE] ACTION: Ben to discuss RDFa Overview as a note [recorded in
[49]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
[DONE] ACTION: Ben to email list about next week's vote on a
resolution regarding CLASS and ROLE attributes and rdf:type.
[recorded in
[50]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action18]
[DONE] ACTION: Ben to email the resolution on mime type to the
mailing list [recorded in
[51]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action20]
[DONE] ACTION: Ben to hand over rdfa syntax baton to Steven on 4/23
[recorded in
[52]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action16]
[49] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action15
[50] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action18
[51] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action20
[52] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action16
[End of minutes]
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