- From: Alberto Reggiori <alberto@asemantics.com>
- Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:37:09 +0200
- To: RDF Data Access Working Group <public-rdf-dawg@w3.org>
Minutes of RDF DAWG telecon 2004-08-31 for review Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/ 0372.html IRC log: http://www.w3.org/2004/08/31-dawg-irc 1. Convene, take roll, review record, agenda Attendees: Simon Raboczi, Alberto Reggiori , Andy Seaborne, Kevin Wilkinson, Yoshio Fukushige, Dan Connolly, Kendall Clark, Jos De Roo, Rob Shearer, Janne Saarela, Simon Raboczi, Hiroyuki Sato Regrets: Dave Beckett, Steve Harris, Tom Adams, Farrukh Najimi, Bryan Thompson, Eric Prud'hommeaux Scribe: Alberto Reggiori The minutes of 2004-08-24 telecon http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/ 0364.html with amendments http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/ 0371.html were APPROVED Next meeting: Tuesday 2004-09-07 14:30 UTC, Simon Raboczi to scribe Five actions were continued from last meeting without discussion: ACTION: TomA: draft reply to Bjoerern Hoehrmann and send the drafts to the WG mailing list. --> CONTINUED ACTION: AndyS to show xmlopen slides to DAWG one or two days in advance. --> CONTINUED ACTION Simon+Kendall elaborate the rel. of rules and "construct" in the UC&R doc. --> CONTINUED ACTION SimonR: write about the "returning bnodes from a query" issue. --> CONTINUED ACTION: RobS to write response to Simon's union query. UC4.5 --> CONTINUED 2. ftf logistics DanC polling 3rd ftf attendee list (see also http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35463/DAWGf2f3/results ) --> no answer yet from: Enrico Franconi , Bryan Thompson, Jean-François Baget, Farrukh Najimi, Pat Hayes, James Hendler, Hiroyuki Sato AndyS: proposed to have an informal "get together" meet with other RDFIG people on Wednesday night 15 Sept in Bristol --> DanC, KendallC and others interested 3. starting another BRQL spec walkthru http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/ $Revision: 1.43 $ of $Date: 2004/08/31 12:53:57 $ RobS: Asked about rephrasing "a" remote protocol and not "the" where used into the text of the document. DanC: noted that the abstract and the title of the document are not aligned ("BRQL - A Query Language for RDF" vs. "the Bristol RDF Query Language, or BRQL") DanC: suggested to shorten/cut the "Document outline" section JanneS: s/PRFEIX/PREFIX in 2.1 SimonR: pointed out an error in the definition of triple pattern in section 2.2 --> Specifically, a ground triple as defined isn't always an RDF triple as claimed. RobS: asking about Section 5 phrasing --> AndyS: said that Section 5 migth be shorten - and refer to FROM and/or SOURCE clauses descriptions to better clarify current text RobS: s/uri/uriref/ in many places in the doc --> AndyS: ack: uri vs uriref : I gather RFC 2396 update will change URI to include #ref [:-( for us] Discussion continued about phrasing of Section 2 "Making Simple Queries" alternative 1 vs. alternative 2 --> almost even the number of people liking either one or the other phrasing --> Yoshio et al. noted that the two sections might be part of two distinct cases JanneS: AndyS, reference [5] link doesn't work Discussion about PREFIX clause positioning - at the beginning, at the end or allow both --> Yoshio: Is the ordering critical in function? or just as a convention? --> AndyS: parsing issue for one-pass parsing --> SimonR: would like to choose one or the other approach rather than leaving the decision to the user --> AlbertoR: likes both - just prefer the old/original RDQL syntax vs. N3/lisp new one ACTION KendallC: volunteerd to "own" the PREFIX issue --> DanC owes Kendall a beer Discussion continued about freezing the BRQL document before the ftf for the reading list --> during next telecon a decision will be made about when freeze BRQL document before 14/15 Sept 4. Use Cases & Requirements publication KendallC: U&C was updated and various misc changes as reported into email to WG - see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/ 0396.html Discussion was about 4.2 ("Aggregation Graphs") vs. 4.5 ("Querying multiple Sources") --> RobS: remains against 4.2 (still in pending status) --> AlbertoR: emailed about FROM vs. SOURCE usage in RDQL and how both approces might be needed - and the possibility to re-conciliate UC&R 4.2 and 4.5 sections - see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/ 0327.html --> SimonR and RobS further discussed about 4.5 and it aggregated/multiple-sources issue is out of the charter or not DanC: is the current U&C editor working draft good/fresh enough for new publication? --> KendallC: proposing to publish - and seconded 5. ftf agenda DanC: agenda due to thursday KendallC: proposed to add latest UC&R draft/document as item on agenda for f2f ACTION SimonR: write a document discussing tradeoffs with adapting XQuery as an RDF query language for discussion thru the September meeting in Bristol. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/ftf2#xqfa --> CONTINUED ACTION: JimH, to work with Bijan to do some sort of UDDI/Web services use case. --> CONTINUED 6. SOURCE, "provenance"/data-management ACTION: DaveB to repropose source in both results and restrictions. --> CONTINUED ACTION: AndyS to (try to) compose a test case on inferred triples --> DONE: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JulSep/ 0330.html Meeting adjourned 15:36 UTC
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