- From: Dave Beckett <dave.beckett@bristol.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 20:46:41 +0100
- To: public-rdf-dawg@w3.org
RDF Data Access WG telcon 2004-04-01 15:30 UTC Agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JanMar/0230.html IRC chat notes http://www.w3.org/2004/04/01-dawg-irc 1. convene, take roll, review record, agenda Present: Jos De Roo, Alberto Reggiori, Bryan Thompson, Andy Seaborne, Kevin Wilkinson, Jean-François Baget, Kendall Clark, Daniel Krech, Rob Shearer, Patrick Stickler, Janne Saarela, Dave Beckett (scribe), Pat Hayes, Dan Connolly (chair), Eric Prud'hommeaux Regrets: Howard Katz Noted overlap in the DAWG telcon times with SWBPD WG, every other week. Telcon times are to be reviewed at the F2F in Amsterdam. Next meeting 2004-04-08 15:30 UTC scribe: EricP Advance regrets for 2004-04-08: Andy Seaborne Minutes of 2004-03-25: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JanMar/0186.html as amended http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JanMar/0189.html ACCEPTED as a true record. No AOB. 2. Use Cases KendallC outlined his email "draft DAWG document outline" http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JanMar/0231.html and will be working with Andy Seaborne to try to merge in his user stories. XQuery was noted as something to add. ACTION EricP: sort out CVS access for Kendall Clark to put the 2004JanMar/0231.html document on the DAWG home page See the user stories now at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/UseCases This was seen as a starting document, not yet including all the use cases and for the WG members to comment on and propose changes and additions. Expanding the use cases from single lines into a paragraph of prose was encouraged. 3. Requirements EricP presented http://www.w3.org/2001/11/13-RDF-Query-Rules/ as roughly two parts - an attempt of an abstract syntax (at the start) followed by an implementation survey (at http://www.w3.org/2001/11/13-RDF-Query-Rules/#implementations ) The document contains anchors for what EricP identified as RDF query language characteristics that could be used to describe the features of the current languages. This set of features is not expected to currently be the complete list. The document also contains more than query languages, and is around 30% RDF rules which is out of scope for DAWG. ACTION EricP: Send mail to public-rdf-dawg about http://www.w3.org/2001/11/13-RDF-Query-Rules/ proposing how it could be used as an abstract syntax to describe requirements. Discussion of RDF path languages and if they were in or out of scope (noted Versa missing). This document is not scoping the WGs work at this point. Noted some of the QLs might assume the graph is a tree - EricP considered that an example could clarify this. The WG discussed forming a list of candidate requirements - both to accept and to reject. The following were accepted: * queries with optional triples * disjunction as described in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2004JanMar/0184.html * queries with paths of length two or more edges * should be possible for the query to indicate whether the response is expected to allow for entailment from the graph or is dealing with the graph as a fixed object * queries expressing [arbitrary] RDF datatypes PatrickS noted there will be some limit to the supported dataypes, and some such as XSD ones which will have widespread support. For datatypes not supported, it could fail or could send back an error, it it didn't understand it. JanneS, AlbertoR: there might be a minimum set of datatypes a QL should support. * queries captured as a URL (bookmarkable) * users can specify the format of query results * query results in RDF (closure) * queries written in RDF ACTION EricP and KendallC: Update the use cases document with the candidate requirements in the minutes of 2004-04-01. See http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/UseCases 4. Issues It was agreed to start an issues list for things that are not use cases or requirements, taking care not to overload this mechanism for minor items. ACTION EricP: work with DanC on an initial DAWG issues list. See http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/issues 5. Amsterdam meeting arrangements Fill out the registration form for the f2f even if you're not attending: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35463/AmsterdamDAWGF2F/ DanC to continue working on the agenda. PatrickS requested that the teleconference to be scheduled at the time the discussion of his requirements comes up. END
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