- From: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>
- Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 22:01:52 -0400
- To: Lee Feigenbaum <lee@thefigtrees.net>
- Cc: Gavin Carothers <gavin@carothers.name>, RDF-WG WG <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>, public-rdf-comments@w3.org, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
On Sat, 2012-08-18 at 22:53 -0400, Lee Feigenbaum wrote: > On 8/17/2012 3:58 PM, David Booth wrote: > > On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 11:30 -0700, Gavin Carothers wrote: > > [ . . . ] > >> Objections to both original syntax and revised syntax > >> ===================================================== > >> > >> Turtle is a reasonably settled languages, changes made by the working > >> group so far have been limited to areas of existing differences in > >> implementation. > >> > >> No demand over years of implementation experience > > I think that may be slightly misleading, because Turtle was not > > previously standardized, and hence was on the same footing as N3, and > > those who wanted to use this feature simply considered their RDF to be > > N3 instead of Turtle. I.e., there was no *need* to demand it in Turtle > > because Turtle was not previously chosen over N3 for standardization. > > In turn, I think this is misleading -- Turtle has far more > implementations than N3, and so -- standard or not -- has had far more > opportunity for users of those implementations (of which there are many) > to demand this feature in a volume that would have lead to it being > adopted. This has not happened even a single time that I know of. Given > the scarcity of N3 implementations, I sincerely doubt that users simply > abandoned their existing Turtle toolkits and picked up an N3 toolkit > instead so that they could use inverse property syntax. Fair enough. I guess the fact that Turtle is much more widely used than N3 is pretty good empirical evidence that the lack of this feature was not as important as using a format with wider support. I would categorize this feature as a "nice to have". But I am a little concerned that if it isn't added to Turtle, then we may never get it, because once Turtle is standardized there may not be sufficient motivation to standardize N3. -- David Booth, Ph.D. http://dbooth.org/ Opinions expressed herein are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of his employer.
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