- From: Gavin Carothers <gavin@carothers.name>
- Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 11:30:30 -0700
- To: RDF-WG WG <public-rdf-wg@w3.org>, public-rdf-comments@w3.org, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
The following is a summary of the positions expressed by the WG and by the community on public-rdf-comments around Turtle Inverse Properties Use cases ========= Reduce otherwise verbose reuse of an object for many subjects. (From TimBL http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-comments/2012Jul/0007.html) Examples: foaf:Person is a of :Alice, :Bob, :Charlie, :David, :Elisa . vs. :Alice a foaf:Person . :Bob a foaf:Person . :Charlie a foaf:Person . :David a foaf:Person . :Elisa a foaf:Person . Allowing a predicate to be used in either direction (From TimBL http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-comments/2012Jul/0007.html) :Alice foaf:age 38; g:child :Bob, :Charlie; is g:child of :Edna, :Fred; foaf:basedNear :London; is dc:author of [ dc:title "My life"; dc:date "1999"] . Compatibility with N3 has not been considered as a use case. Rationale ========= Decreases the motivation for the anti-pattern to define both property and inverse of the property for all properties. In other words, if you can write "is child of" you don't need to define a separate "parent" property. No emerging consensuses on the need to reduce otherwise verbose reuse of an object for many subjects. Objections ========== English-centric "is ... of" is English-centric. Moves Turtle away from stated goal of compatibility with SPARQL 1.1. Revised ^ Syntax ================ foaf:Person ^a :Alice, :Bob, :Charlie, :David, :Elisa . :Alice foaf:age 38; g:child :Bob, :Charlie; ^g:child :Edna, :Fred; foaf:basedNear :London; is dc:author of [ dc:title "My life"; dc:date "1999"] . Objections to Revised Syntax ============================ Not compatible with N3 Not compatible with SPARQL Update or SPARQL CONSTRUCT No implementation experience Objections to both original syntax and revised syntax ===================================================== Turtle is a reasonably settled languages, changes made by the working group so far have been limited to areas of existing differences in implementation. No demand over years of implementation experience Harder to teach Turtle No implementation experience in SERIALIZING to these inverse forms. Proposals ========= 1. Add is .. of syntax to Turtle. 1.1. Allowing "literals" in any subject position by syntax, however the RDF model disallows literal as subject. (somewhat as SPARQL but SPARQL does not support is ... of syntax) 1.2. Attempting to limit use of "literals" in subject position to only is ... of predicates in grammar (Not as SPARQL) 2. Add ^ property path syntax to Turtle. 1.1. Allowing "literals" in any subject position by syntax, however the RDF model disallows literal as subject. (As SPARQL in query blocks, however SPARQL disallows path syntax in triple assertion syntax) 1.2. Attempting to limit use of "literals" in subject position to only ^ predicates in grammar (Not as SPARQL and SPARQL disallows path syntax in triple assertion syntax.) 3. Add both ^ property path syntax and "is ... of" syntax. 1.1. Allowing "literals" in any subject position by syntax, however the RDF model disallows literal as subject. (As SPARQL in query blocks, however SPARQL disallows path syntax in triple assertion syntax) 1.2. Attempting to limit use of "literals" in subject position to only ^ predicates and is .. of predicates in grammar (Not as SPARQL and SPARQL disallows path syntax in triple assertion syntax and SPARQL does not support is ... of) 4. Do nothing.
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