- From: Steve K Speicher <sspeiche@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 21:34:40 -0400
- To: public-rdf-comments@w3.org
I'm very supportive of this work and have a comments regarding the working drafts published at [1] and [2]. Also a disclaimer that I haven't been tracking this so I may be missing some background and context for what currently exists in these drafts. My background on this is the need to supporting a lightweight easily consumable by Web browsers in RDF-compatible JSON [3] for the purposes of integrating system and software development tools [4]. These comments are with respect to syntax [1]: 3.4.a) Defining "@type" with existing definition of "rdf:type" It would be extremely useful to say that by "@type" in this usage has the same semantics as "rdf:type" (or why it is different). 3.4.b) Resources that have multiple "types". I see that "@type" on a resource is a JSONObject and not an array, right? How does one express a resource that has a >1 type? It would seem that coming from an RDF data model into this would lose types > 1. I suggest changing the value type of @type to an array. 4.2) "@type" means either resource type or property value type - how to tell which is which I don't see a normative algorithm how one would determine that a use of "@type" meant it was a value type verses resource type. 4.14) Roundtripping Compact and Expanded forms My scenario, I have client code that parts of it only understand the Compact form and other older code gets by with operating on the JSON structures it is used to. My client GETs the JSON does its thing, then submits back to the server. My client asks for the JSON representation again but this time the server decides to give it back in Expanded form, my client code is unhappy with this and no longer works. It appears the client is as the mercy of the server to make its mind which form it wants to support. Perhaps it is enough to say that clients need to be written to expect either but this seems to lose some of the value of having the Compact form at all unless truly for true producer-only servers (read-only). Examples 52 and 50 highlight the differences in the forms that I'm referring. B.1) Relationship to RDF concepts is very hidden and/or non-normative It would seem that this statement "JSON-LD is capable of serializing any RDF graph, and performing full RDF to JSON-LD to RDF round-tripping" would be a normative statement. As a side comment, coming from a RDF background, I found it surprising that RDF concepts and references weren't more obvious and plentiful throughout the specification. Perhaps this is a desire to "simplify" RDF or prevent adopters from running for the hills. I believe spending too much effort separating it from RDF would only hurt the adoption of it and RDF in general. I'm sure this has been part of the discussions that I have missed over the last 18 months and I confess, it is not a priority for me to get more involved and change this. So treat this comment as just an observation I wanted to pass to the RDF WG. I have no comments on api [2] (but I hold the right to have them in the future;-) Regards, Steve Speicher IBM Rational Software OSLC - Lifecycle integration inspired by the web -> http://open-services.net [1] - http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-json-ld-syntax-20120712/ [2] - http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-json-ld-api-20120712/ [3] - http://open-services.net/bin/view/Main/OSLCCoreSpecAppendixRepresentations#Guidelines_for_JSON [4] - http://open-services.net
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