- From: Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 06:41:38 -0400
- To: Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>
- Cc: RDB2RDF WG <public-rdb2rdf-wg@w3.org>
* Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de> [2010-06-08 09:56+0100]
> Hi Eric,
>
> That's a good start.
I'm hoping that by actually including the URL (!)
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directGraph/
I can clarify many of these questions.
In penance, I will go through your comments and point to where they
should be answered in the doc.
> On 7 Jun 2010, at 16:49, Eric Prud'hommeaux wrote:
> >In order to get some common terminology, I've created a draft of a
> >Direct Mapping.
>
> Maybe start by defining what a database is in your notation? "A
> database db is a set of relations R_1...R_i" etc?
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directGraph/#Rel-Database
> >This defines a Direct Graph and demonstrates how this
> >definition can be extended.
> >
> >The crux of it is still:
> >
> >directDB(db) ≝ { directR(r) ∀ r ∈ db }
> >directR(R) ≝ { directT(R, T) ∀ T ∈ R.Body }
> >directT(R, T) ≝ { directL(R, S, A) ∀ A ∈ scalar(T) }
> > ∪ { directN(R, S, A) ∀ A ∈ reference(T) }
>
> What are scalar(T) and reference(T)?
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directGraph/#direct-scalar
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directGraph/#direct-reference
> > ∣ S = nodemap(R, pk(T))
> >directL(R, S, A) ≝ triple(S, predicatemap(R, A), literalmap(A))
>
> What's literalmap?
>
> >directN(R, S, A) ≝ triple(S, predicatemap(R, A), nodemap(R, A))
> >
> >nodemap(R, A) ≝ IRI(stem + "/" + R.name "/" A.name + "." +
> >A.value + "#_")
> >predicatemap(R, A) ≝ IRI(stem + "/" + R.name "#" A.name)
>
> What's the logic for uses hashes in some places and slashes in others?
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directGraph/#LD
> Shouldn't there be an rdf:type triple somewhere? If not, then how do
> you SPARQL for all records in a single DB?
Would you be satisfied with a TypeAnnotation extension?
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directGraph/#extend
It feels like keeping the direct mapping agnostic to types
simplifies later math.
> To be really useful, this direct mapping should define a URI for the
> DB itself, for each relation, and for each attribute in the
> relations.
The direct mapping is defined in terms of a <code>stem</code>
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directGraph/#alg
> >I'm still playing with the notation.
>
> I'd prefer classical mathematical sets, so where you have:
>
> directDB(db) ≝ { directR(r) ∀ r ∈ db }
>
> I'd rather see:
>
> directDB(db) = { directR(r) | r ∈ db }
Any seconds on this? I'm pretty agnostic to notation.
Did the scala notation resonate with you at all?
> General note: "succinct" and "clear" are correlated, but not the
> same. The latter should be the goal, not the former.
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> >It's currently a pretty classic
> >notation:
> >
> > 3.1 Notation for Types
> > A : a type
> > A ⊔ B : disjoint union of A and B
> > ( A, B ) : tuple (Cartesian product) of types A and B
> > [ A ] : list of elements of type A
> > { A } : set of elements of type A
> > { A→B } : map of elements of type A to elements of type B
> > 3.2 Notation for Injectors
> > a : an instance of an A
> > ( a1, b1 ) : a tuple with elements a1 and b1
> > [ a1, a2 ] : list with elements a1 and a2
> > { a1, a2 } : set with elements a1 and a2
> > { a1→b1, a2→b2 } : map with elements with key a1 mapped to b1
> >and key a2 mapped to b2
> > 3.3 Supporting Functions
> > AB[a] : in a map of A to B, the instance of B for a given A*
> >
> >We can get more type-safety if we use something like a scala notation,
> >but I'm not sure how to tersely express things like disjoint union.
> >
> > 3.1 Notation for Types
> > x:X : x is an element in the set X
> > A ?? B : disjoint union of A and B (normally case classes
> > extending an abstract class, e.g.:
> > abstract class AB; A extends AB; B extends AB;
> > )
> > ( A, B ) : tuple (Cartesian product) of types A and B
> > List[ A ] : list of elements of type A
> > Set[ A ] : set of elements of type A
> > Map[ A, B ] : map of elements of type A to elements of type B
> > 3.2 Notation for Injectors
> > a : an instance of an A
> > ( a1, b1 ) : a tuple with elements a1 and b1
> > List( a1, a2 ) : list with elements a1 and a2
> > Set( a1, a2 ) : set with elements a1 and a2
> > Map( a1→b1, a2→b2 ) : map with elements with key a1 mapped to
> >b1 and key a2 mapped to b2
> > 3.3 Supporting Functions
> > AB(a) : in a map of A to B, the instance of B for a given A*
> >
> >--
> >-ericP
> >
>
--
-ericP
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