[Minutes] RAX CG call 2016-10-14

Hi all,

minutes are at https://www.w3.org/2016/10/14-rax-minutes.html and below as text. We agreed today that concrete examples (= XML and RDF *code*) can help to better structure the discussion. I gave my self an action to provide example(s), and for Phil too - his examples are already in the wiki and we can discuss them during the call in two weeks.

Best,

Felix

   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                               - DRAFT -

                                 rax cg

14 Oct 2016

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rax/2016Oct/0002.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/14-rax-irc

Attendees

   Present
          cdirschl, felix, quentin, jean-pierre

   Regrets
          phil

   Chair
          Christian

   Scribe
          fsasaki, cdirschl

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]discussion on group scope
     * [6]Summary of Action Items
     * [7]Summary of Resolutions
     __________________________________________________________

   <fsasaki> scribe: fsasaki

   <cdirschl> chair: cdirschl

   <cdirschl> scribe: cdirschl

   <scribe> meeting: rax

   <fsasaki> scribe: fsasaki

   <quentin> sorry for joining late

   <quentin> we are leveraging JSON-LD to store triples in NoSQL
   databases

discussion on group scope

   quentin: json-ld allowing to store triple info in more
   "performant" serialzation, e.g. for no sql DB

   jean-pierre: XML <> RDF discussion for years. many want to go
   from an XML schema to RDF
   ... people doing automatic translation, but no good results so
   far.
   ... what does it (not mean) to go from XML to RDF

   quentin: agree, a lot of transformation solutions, but no
   agreed standardization
   ... W3C having XML > RDF transformation, that is not available
   ... one reason may be: there are too many serizalizations
   ... publisihing industry is XML oriented. They don't understand
   that RDF is not XML
   ... XSLT can get you to RDF, but not to the end, since you deal
   with a graph
   ... you loose information and then need to create libraries

   jean-pierre: can do conversion without any issues
   ... I don't believe that we can come up with a standard way to
   go from XML > RDF

   felix: gathering examples could help

   jean-pierre: you can learn from that
   ... I am using RDF/XML instead of turtle, since most of the
   data I get is XML, I am using XSLT, for me it is much better to
   go from XML to XML serialization

   [8]https://www.w3.org/community/rax/wiki/Draft_Material#Enrichm
   ent_in_Localization_and_Translation

      [8] https://www.w3.org/community/rax/wiki/Draft_Material#Enrichment_in_Localization_and_Translation

   christian: part of our request was: give us a problem, use
   case, and then make clear what that means
   ... that will make it clearer

   felix: have on the call agenda to have introduction of examples

   christian: agree, to add that to the normal agenda

   jean-pierre: can provide example after mid november

   discussion on further examples to be provided

   <scribe> ACTION: felix to provide example for next call
   [recorded in
   [9]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/14-rax-minutes.html#action01]

      [9] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/14-rax-minutes.html#action01]

   <scribe> ACTION: phil to introduce
   [10]https://www.w3.org/community/rax/wiki/Draft_Material#Enrich
   ment_in_Localization_and_Translation during the next call
   [recorded in
   [11]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/14-rax-minutes.html#action02]

     [10] https://www.w3.org/community/rax/wiki/Draft_Material#Enrichment_in_Localization_and_Translation
     [11] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/14-rax-minutes.html#action02]

   adjourned

   next call in two weeks

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: felix to provide example for next call [recorded
   in [12]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/14-rax-minutes.html#action01]
   [NEW] ACTION: phil to introduce
   https://www.w3.org/community/rax/wiki/Draft_Material#Enrichment
   _in_Localization_and_Translation during the next call [recorded
   in [13]http://www.w3.org/2016/10/14-rax-minutes.html#action02]

     [12] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/14-rax-minutes.html#action01
     [13] http://www.w3.org/2016/10/14-rax-minutes.html#action02

Summary of Resolutions

   [End of minutes]

Received on Friday, 14 October 2016 14:17:41 UTC