- From: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>
- Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 00:36:19 -0400
- To: "Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken" <tsiegman@wiley.com>, "Reid, Wendy" <wendy.reid@rakuten.com>
- Cc: "public-pwe@w3.org" <public-pwe@w3.org>
I am disappointed in the decision in the last meeting[10] to override my
concerns about PR 237[20]. I believe it was hasty, counterproductive
and violated the spirit of the W3C consensus process.
I'd like to respectfully request that the group reopen PR 237 to permit
further editorial changes to its content. By W3C process, an issue that
has been closed should not be reopened without new information. And
since, in our last meeting, I specifically requested the opportunity to
propose new editorial changes to 237 prior to its closure, and that
request was rejected, I cannot rightly propose those editorial changes
now, unless I offer new information sufficient to reopen the issue.
The new information that I wish to provide is procedural. In our last
meeting[1], when it became apparent that the group did not have
consensus to close 237, the issue was nonetheless closed, in spite of
the fact that:
- No binding group vote was taken to override the lack of consensus.
- I offered to propose editorial changes that I thought would allow
the group to reach consensus -- changes intended to address my editorial
concerns while still retaining the essence of the content that the group
wanted -- but the offer was not considered.
- Two participants suggested that I should be permitted to propose
further editorial edits to the wording of 237, but this suggestion was
not adopted in the decision to close 237.
- One other participant suggested postponing the decision, to give
further opportunity to reach consensus, but this suggestion also was not
adopted.
In short, I think the decision to close the issue in spite of the lack
of consensus was hasty. I think consensus could have been reached with
minimal additional effort. With that aim I respectfully request that
237 be reopened to permit further editorial changes to it.
If the group agrees to the above, I would like to propose the following
edits.
1. There is a lot of redundancy between these two bullets, which both
talk about making assumptions about people's skills:
<li>Intentionally or unintentionally making assumptions
about the skills or knowledge of others, such as using language that
implies the audience is uninformed on a topic (e.g. interjections like
"I can't believe you don't know about [topic]").
</li>
<li>Assuming that particular groups of people are
technically unskilled due to their characteristics (e.g., “So easy your
grandmother could do it”, which implies an older woman might not be
technically competent).
</li>
I propose eliminating the redundancy and simplifying the wording to the
following:
<li>Implying that the audience is unusually uninformed
(e.g. making statements like "I can't believe you don't know about
[topic]").
</li>
<li>Implying that certain demographic groups are unskilled
(e.g., “So easy your grandmother could do it”, which implies an older
woman would not be technically competent).
</li>
2. I propose acknowledging the source of the "patronizing" definition,
and the fact that it was edited. Plagiarism in a code of conduct would
be embarrassing.
References:
10. https://www.w3.org/2023/04/25-pwe-minutes.html
20. https://github.com/w3c/PWETF/pull/237
Thanks,
David Booth
Received on Monday, 8 May 2023 04:36:26 UTC