Re: Question regarding Legal Documents and Heavy use of Nested Numbered Lists

To be honest, my first and so far only thought is that perhaps this is a 
niche best left to PDF. There aren't many such, but the complexities of 
numbered structures within structures may not be worth the vast effort 
of reinventing for EPUB.

/  —Jim

/
On 8/11/2023 12:15 PM, Leonard Rosenthol wrote:
>
> Why not examine how PDF does this – since the vast majority of legal 
> documents have been (and continue to be) distributed as PDF files for 
> 25+ years now including many of them required to be accessible.
>
> While the full details of creating accessible PDFs can be found in ISO 
> 14289, PDF/UA (https://pdfa.org/resource/iso-14289-pdfua/) – you can 
> also check out what the W3C specifically says about the handling of 
> Lists in PDF with respect to WCAG at 
> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/pdf#PDF21.
>
> Leonard
>
> *From: *Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>
> *Date: *Friday, August 11, 2023 at 1:31 PM
> *To: *public-publishingcg@w3.org <public-publishingcg@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Question regarding Legal Documents and Heavy use of Nested 
> Numbered Lists
>
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>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am struggling to find what should be the best practice around Legal 
> documents or other documents which have a lot of nested numbered lists.
>
> Should these lists be encoded as true lists in HTML or should they be 
> hard coded within the <p> tags.
>
> I see pros and cons for both ways.  For accessibility reasons having 
> these as true lists is important for navigation etc. but if you are 
> trying to cite some legal section 2.5.3 for example and copy that out 
> and past it into another document it usually will revert to 1.1.1.  
> There may be other concerns I am not thinking of especially say a 
> multi-page document and needing to keep track on a different page 
> where the numbering scheme left of so you can update the list’s 
> starting point.
>
> Any thoughts on how these heavily nested list documents should be 
> encoded from an accessibility perspective.
>
> Thanks
>
> Charles
>
> EOM
>
> Charles LaPierre
>
> Principal, Accessibility and Content Quality Architect
>
> Benetech
>
> Twitter: @CLaPierreA11Y
>


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