Re: Open-UI popups

Hi Mateus,

Yep, that seems to be the 'common' solution today (using <details>), but
with it comes the fact that content on the 'page' moves (expands/contracts
to expose the extended description) which has what some may consider
negative implications on the layout.

Many years ago (when I was up to my neck fighting the @longdesc battle at
HTML5), I had a colleague spin up a Proof of Concept demo that used jQuery
and the longdesc attribute in a 'solution' that did not impact the layout
of a page. See:
http://blog.ginader.de/dev/jquery/longdesc/examples/webaim/index.php

(There remain a few accessibility issues with this PoC, but the quick and
dirty is to "click" on the "i in the circle" icon in the bottom right
corner)

FWIW.

JF

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 11:43 AM Teixeira, Mateus <mteixeira@wwnorton.com>
wrote:

> One of my engineering colleagues here at Norton (Evan Yamanishi) worked
> with DIAGRAM on this exact problem at the Web4All code sprint—their
> solution did use <details>, but it would be an interesting idea to iterate
> on: https://github.com/diagram-codesprint/ExtendedImageDescriptions
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> Evan maintains Norton’s open-source design system, which might be another
> useful source of examples (in that it’s made by a publisher with ebook use
> cases): https://wwnorton.github.io/design-system/
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> Will share this with him, as well.
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> Thanks,
> Mateus
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> *From: *John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
> *Date: *Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 8:20 AM
> *To: *"Siegman, Tzviya" <tsiegman@wiley.com>
> *Cc: *W3C Publishing Business Group <public-publishingbg@w3.org>, "
> public-publishingcg@w3.org" <public-publishingcg@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Open-UI popups
> *Resent-From: *<public-publishingcg@w3.org>
> *Resent-Date: *Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 8:20 AM
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> *EXTERNAL EMAIL*
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> Hi Tzviya,
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>
> My initial reaction was "...for rendering extended image descriptions"?
> (aka "longdesc" et. al.) - click on a complex image and launch a popup with
> the longer text? Without any user-testing at this point, it *may*
> nonetheless be a better experience than what we currently see/have with
> <details>. (???)
>
> Just a thought.
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>
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> JF
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> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:46 AM Siegman, Tzviya <tsiegman@wiley.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi All,
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> Open UI is a bunch of implementors coming together to design some
> extensible components for the Web. Here is their work on popups [1], which
> in the greater web context often refers to things like popup ads. We should
> take a look and see if there is anything we can add or use.
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>
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> [1] https://open-ui.org/components/popup.research
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> *Tzviya Siegman*
>
> Information Standards Principal
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> Wiley
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> 201-748-6884
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> tsiegman@wiley.com
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> --
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> *John Foliot* | Senior Industry Specialist, Digital Accessibility
>
> "I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." -
> Pascal "links go places, buttons do things"
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*John Foliot* | Senior Industry Specialist, Digital Accessibility

"I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." -
Pascal "links go places, buttons do things"